Mexico City Wrap-up

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Hey everybody, it's Daniel's

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Dread Tales and we're here.
Hello.

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And we're dreadful.
Hi.

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Hi, it's.
Awesome.

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No, you're dreadful.
We're awesome.

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OK.
This wig is itchy.

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Don't acknowledge the wig.
That's just your hair now.

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Yeah, exactly.
Yes, absolutely.

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Miss Piggy never says she's
wearing a wig even.

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She's obviously my my role model
in all things.

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I don't know if this has come
up.

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That shows.
But The Muppets are this piggy

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the best.
That really shows.

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God, now we can't include this
either.

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Or maybe we can't.
Hey everybody, it's Daniel's

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dread Tail.
This.

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Is great content.
Content.

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God I hate content.
I hate the phrase content.

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Welcome to the show.
We're talking about Mexico City

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but like not real Mexico City.
A made-up Mexico City from the

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1930s that's full of a poorly
run nectar cult.

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Yeah, and birds.
Yeah.

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And and evil birds that really
only attacked you that one time.

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They still did some awful
things.

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They did?
Yeah.

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That, that one guy exploded into
birds.

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Yeah.
I.

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Hate someone?
Yeah.

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Or had someone fed to them.
Yes, several, many people were

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fed to.
I, I recently looked at the, the

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description of of episode 27 and
I think it was episode 27 and

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noticed that one of the triggers
we put in was for bird splosion,

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which Yep.
I yeah, I I guess that's.

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I don't know what other trigger
you would put in there.

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Yes.
Yeah, no, fair enough.

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Let's just.
I had to.

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I had to feed the birds at my
friend Andrea's house while she

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was out of town and usually my
wife does the bird.

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The birds, they were aggressive.
Well, mostly the parent, but

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parents are.
Asking.

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That's karma.
Well.

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You know, so anyway, this is our
special wrap up episode for our

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Mexico City arc as we move
towards the end of our Eternal

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Lies campaign.
We did this after some of our

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other stuff and because it's not
going to be edited nearly as

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much, we thought we'd do it on
video.

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So if you're on YouTube, you're
seeing us in video form.

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If you're listening to us on a
podcast, use your imagination or

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go to our YouTube channel to see
us.

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It's.
Yeah, then you could.

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Then you could listen to this
twice.

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Come check out this shirt Nathan
is wearing.

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That's that's a really cool
shirt.

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I like it.
I'm I'm wearing my Colombo

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shirt.
Nice.

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Oh, that's good.
It's got Colombo on it.

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I'm.
Wearing my Scott hasn't seen

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Godzilla shirt, it doesn't make
sense.

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I will spare you explaining
inside jokes from other

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podcasts, but it's Godzilla with
a.

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Got it.
I'm wearing.

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A shirt from a podcast too.
What does it say?

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Bill, oh, who might.
Yeah, I I'm reading it now.

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I see now.
I see now you wouldn't get it.

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It's from my.
They left their shop open longer

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than the podcast.
Yes, the shop were made-up for

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our old show.
Because the.

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Movie is still up.
I think it might still be up.

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Yeah.
I who knows where that well, I

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know where that money goes.
It's not going to the assault

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show.
That money's going to T public

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or whatever.
Jesus Christ.

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OK, The show that we're doing
right now is called Daniels Red

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Tails, and we're going to be
talking about Mexico City and

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we're going to be answering your
questions, but we only got a

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couple of them, but that's OK.
Hatch.

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And by your questions, we mean
Russell's questions.

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Well, no, we have one person who
asks us questions, too.

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Hi, Hatch.
So, Russell, you usually take

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the lead on these things, right?
With questions?

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Did you do that this time?
Or am I blathering?

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I haven't done it this time.
Oh, you haven't?

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Oh no.
But I haven't taken the lead

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yet, is what I mean.
Oh, you have?

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Taken the.
Yeah, OK.

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So let's, let's start with the
listener questions then.

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I've got this in no particular
order, but I'm thinking there

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was questions about the Tibet
armor of the cult.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
And maybe we could go into why

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we're skipping that.
So it's not Tibet, it's Tibet.

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Tibet.
No.

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No.
Bangkok.

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Bangkok, yes.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, we didn't even
spend one night in Bangkok.

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I mean, we could go to Bangkok.
It is an option that is

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available.
But to be perfectly honest, this

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campaign's going on for quite a
while.

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So we're thinking that maybe
Bangkok could be something that

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exists sort of on the periphery
as we move towards the ending.

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I sort of distributed the clues
around so that you don't

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necessarily need to go
everywhere to get what you need

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to, to stop the final cult.
So while there are some, you

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know, tantalizing hooks leading
towards Bangkok, we may not get

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there and that that's totally
fine.

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They might come free.
But I mean.

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I mean, have you seen Hangover
too?

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You know I haven't.
I ain't going to Bangkok.

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OK.
And at the same time too, all of

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the most interesting
Lovecraftian stories usually

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have some loose ends at the end.
Yeah, what you'll have to do is

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look me up and I'll just run the
entire campaign for you.

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What other way?
And it'll go differently the

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next time I.
You can send Daniel an e-mail at

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danstreadtails@gmail.com.
Yeah, send me an e-mail, we can

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discuss payment options.
I'll I'll run it for you.

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I'll handle the payments, no
worries.

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I'll do the doxing.
But yeah, As for the Tibet

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thing, Tibet is where is where
you would need to go to go to

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the Himalayas, which is where,
you know, the body of this

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monster that you're fighting,
devouring, no.

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Do we know that?
Yeah, I'm not sure we know well.

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As far as we know.
Yeah.

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As far as we've been able to put
together as PCs, that's

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basically where it is.
And like I kind of figured that

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was going to be where it was
when it when it was initially

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mentioned, like when the
Himalayas was initially

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mentioned.
But that's just because, like me

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as Damien, I've ingested a lot
of Lovecraftian like stories and

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there's more than a couple that
feature the Himalayas.

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Yeah, but it's, you know, you'll
go there and they'll be gone.

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You could beat that guy, so it's
fine.

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Like once you kill whatever that
thing is, the cult will be

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destroyed because they want of a
God to worship anywhere.

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So you just got to kill a God.
It's fine.

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Get some dynamite right?
Yeah, exactly.

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It's worked.
It's worked thus far.

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In the mountains.
Yeah.

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You're going to need to haul up
some, you know, couple grenades

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and also you have to be there
when the sky is clear.

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But you do know a ritual to
clear the skies.

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Maybe you don't remember this,
but that was a thing that was

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established.
It has been a while.

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It's in the we'll.
Go over all hang.

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On hang on, have we agreed on
taking dynamite to the

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mountains?
Because the more I hear about

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it, the less of a good idea it
seems.

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It's always a good idea.
Especially in the mountains.

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It's never failed us.
We haven't been to the mountains

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yet.
That's true.

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Well.
Maybe you'll get buried alive.

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Here in the Yucatan Peninsula,
there's theoretically a power

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enough to, you know, do all
sorts of things here.

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Dynamite.
No, I mean, they have dynamite

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all over the place.
I actually don't know if they're

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going to have any dynamite.
Perfect.

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But yeah.
That sounds like a Venn problem.

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So that's one question.
Was there another question?

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Not that was.
That was it.

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That was that vague Tibet thing.
Vague.

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Tibet.
OK, Good night everyone.

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Yes, I mean so.
I wanted to actually, I said

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Tibet when I was more referring
to the the Himalaya.

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The the that is what is going to
be close to the end game for

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you.
I don't know if it will truly be

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the end game, but but we'll see.
But we got one more detour

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first, unless you guys really
want to go to bed.

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All right.
Or that other.

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Part.
Yeah.

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You do have to.
There is also that mouth in Los

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Angeles.
Theoretically you could go back

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and try to get that it's.
We need more dynamite.

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Edgar job there.
We could Job is still out.

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There.
Job is still, well, not out

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there.
Job is still you know.

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Yeah, he's supposed to be in
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Yeah, he is in.
He is in asylum, probably for

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the rest.
Yeah, definitely.

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I'm I'm sure he doesn't have
anything to.

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Do with so our next question.
Yeah, Yeah.

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Go ahead.
Our next question was, was Gomez

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under the effects of Nectar when
his head exploded?

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It's.
A little unclear.

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It's a little unclear, isn't it?
Yes, yes, he was under the

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effects.
That's why they're asking.

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I I will say yes, but I'm also
going to say who knows how it

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all works.
It's a little weird.

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I maybe stole that image from a
book I read, except he the book

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John dies at the end.
There's a cop who shows up at

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one point who's like trying to
save them.

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And then it's just like, oh, OK,
maybe this is going to be good.

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And then his head explodes into
spiders.

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And I was inspired by that
image.

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This seemed a little familiar,
yeah.

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In the movie, the cop is trying
to kill them.

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In the book, the cop is trying
to save them.

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David Pardon's book see he wrote
under J no Jason Pardon he wrote

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under the name of David Wong for
a moment.

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But yes, the.
The idea was that the nectar

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responds to the music and the
birds are tied to the nectar as

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well.
Unfortunately for the cult, they

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couldn't quite get it all
working.

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Somebody kept making their saves
and not drinking nectar and

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exploding it.
Yep.

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Probably for the past.
That would have been an awful

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way for JP today.
Yeah, what's funny is I was not

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making my saves.
Many of my many of the saves I

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made were other people get down,
Mr. President, Secret Service

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tackling me to the ground before
I could do anything.

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That's also true, A healthy way
to deal with it.

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Speaking of stability tests, the
next question and the last

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listener question we got is, was
the stability test for wanting

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to immediately take Nexter just
for JB or was that for anyone

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who heard the song?
It was for oh gosh, did I not

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make you guys make your checks?
No, because most of you guys.

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We made our checks, but we
succeeded.

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If anybody hears it, there's
they want to consume nectar if

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it is around if anybody hears
it.

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There you go.
Which was going to be a very

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useful way to spread the drug
around.

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Like that was the whole point of
the they was going to brainwash

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people to wanting to take the
drug.

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And then when you take the drug,
you go even more under the the

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thrall of the song at all of
that.

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OK.
Has risen from his slumber,

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apparently.
Oh yes, children will do that.

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Well, so she goes.
What did we think overall about

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Mexico?
What, what do we got thoughts on

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how that went?
How do we feel about our I mean,

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I guess here's the idea.
We got a new character joining

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us this time.
How?

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How do we feel about that?
Oh, Smalls.

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Yeah, I was getting confused
about which arc we were talking

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about.
Oh yeah.

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Yeah, 'cause there's only one
newish character we've had,

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yeah.
'Cause Reggie's he's floating in

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space somewhere or chatting with
an elder God?

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We're not 100% sure, probably.
Probably.

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Well, Smalls is an interesting
character.

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He's real intense.
That's the word I'm looking for

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so hard to.
Read hard to read.

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Oh, it's like I said, Smalls had
me forever.

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When you know he sees, he's
getting followed and waves.

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Yeah.
That was that was amazing.

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Yes, that that that really threw
off the guys that were trying to

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spy on you.
There were people watching you

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throughout Mexico, but it seemed
like they had trouble actually

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inflicting damage.
Well, so one of the things with

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Smalls and I don't know how
successfully I've been

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portraying it, is he's slightly
arrogant.

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He thinks he's he does at the
like at the core of his being.

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He kind of thinks he's better
than most people.

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So like him waving at the dude
who's like, obviously watching

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him is like, yeah, I, I nice
try.

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Try again when you've gotten
better.

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Yeah.
But now we've seen some stuff,

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so and buddy, you're going to
see some more stuff very soon.

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You're going to see some stuff.
Capital S.

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Oh yes, especially with what's
happened now.

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I think technically his most
recent sanity loss was

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technically after what we're
covering here.

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But yeah, it that's going to be
interesting with how that shakes

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out.
Yeah, as I told my players,

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while this next little bit is
going to be a fun little detour,

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it might be the most dangerous.
Don't realize it yet.

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I remember that.
Well, you can't really say we

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don't realize it when you've
told us multiple times.

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Well, your characters.
Don't read.

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OK, There you go.
Yeah.

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I also just want to put it out
there in advance so that like,

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when one of you dies almost
unexpectedly, you're not going

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to be like, hey, Daniel, like is
being mean to us again.

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I would never.
Well, I won't say that.

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Renee on the other hand.
Yeah, yeah.

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You know what if J BS head just
exploded like that, just you

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know, these things might happen,
OK?

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I I can't see that coming back
again.

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Nah, it's like a one time thing.
Honestly it's close to a one

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time thing because the the
singing part of the cult has now

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been dealt with.
It's true the bloodsport part of

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the whole stir out there though
the.

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The one thing I am gonna say,
just as a final thing for

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smalls, is it has been slightly
amusing being able to use the

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alien as the CSI technique
randomly.

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Hey, I'd like to use forensic
analysis.

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Do you have forensics?
No, but I haven't.

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That's honesty and it's just as
good and.

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Then I sigh, and then I tell you
about the place.

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Yep.
Works every time.

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I do like how in the description
for that ability, it's like,

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yeah, you might want to remind
your storyteller of this because

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they will forget.
The other thing I wanted to

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mention was maybe the the
romance that is building up

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between JB and Kearns, though
admittedly Renee is dealing with

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the child, but I guess we could
ask one person about it.

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Yeah, yeah, it just happened.
Yeah.

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Like this does just seem to be
the way for whenever I do

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romance in a in a tabletop game
is that I I never plan to do it.

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It's just something that comes
up with the situation.

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It's part part of it is that I'm
physically incapable of playing

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a of playing anyone but a
bisexual.

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So.
So I always have the options.

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OK.
Well, it's like someone said in

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a improv game that I thoroughly
trounced everyone in at a

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Halloween event years ago.
An improv Everyone's bisexual.

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I suppose, yeah.
I mean, I just thought that

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every every character that you
play is a self-portrait in some

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way.
Yeah.

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That's what that's what I think
you got to pull on some part of

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you to at least that's what I
think.

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But I'm not.
This is why I'm not an actor.

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So I don't know.
I'm no Daniel.

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I believe I mentioned at one
point that the part of Colin, or

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part of me that is in Colin is
the love of accounting.

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Yeah, I do apologize.
The accounting has not truly

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been the most important skill
for this whole thing.

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It's it's been used a lot more
than I think you're realizing.

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It has been used very.
Important It is very important

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to analyze the money.
What are you going to use to

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distract everybody in this
encampment?

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Oh, I know exactly what I'm
going to use, Daniel.

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Well, I asked a couple of
questions.

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What what do we think?
Any other thoughts there,

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Russell?
We got some questions.

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Oh, I've got more questions.
We could probably talk about the

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Mexico City a bit more if we
want.

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Yeah, that's I just, I don't
know what to to say necessarily.

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High highlight of the arc for
everybody.

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Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Highlight of the arc.

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Let's start with not me because
I just pulled that out of my ass

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and I have not thought about.
It yet we'll let your ass

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recover.
Thank you.

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No.
Problem head of the arc.

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It's a good question.
But he loved it.

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I'm come on, man, I'm.
Kidding, I'm.

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Kidding.
You know what?

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This is going to sound weird,
but like having actually like a

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competent, helpful ally was
really nice and refreshing.

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You know, like I don't know if
that's ever happened before,

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which I knew marked our our poor
friend for horrible bird death.

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But like, at the same time, it
was so nice, so nice while it

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lasted.
Yeah.

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I think this is the first arc
that, well, yes, we were being

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surveilled, we were being
tailed.

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There were people after us.
The people that were coming up

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to us weren't all, you know,
antagonistic in some form or

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another.
They were actually helpful.

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The rest of them at least 50%.
There were there were friendly

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people in Mexico City,
definitely.

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Now I will note there was a guy
who was watching you in Ethiopia

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who ended up being a good guy,
but you beat the shit out.

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Yeah, OK, He knows what he did.
Fair enough.

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He was acting.
Shake, I see what you're saying.

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There was also, I guess Nathan
didn't feel this person was as

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helpful because they were busy
being tortured at the time, but

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there was that old crusader monk
guy as well.

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He also preoccupied.
Yeah, you're preoccupied.

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And also I don't know how useful
he actually was.

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He well, he knows for sure that
the guy you've been fighting is

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never laugh at time.
You're good to go.

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For sure.
He gave us, isn't he the one who

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gave us the flamethrower?
The one that killed Kay it.

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Was in his one.
That killed Kay, Yes, that is.

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He's so not that helpful.
In the grand scheme of things,

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no, not so much.
No, I didn't think he should

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have had a flamethrower, but
people told me he should have a

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flamethrower and then, you know,
fucking choke on it.

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But no, I had fun playing
competent police force in this

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one, which goes against my moral
code, to be perfectly honest.

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But you know.
Yeah.

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I mean, yeah, but.
It was also just the Mexico Colt

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was again, you never there was a
little bit more info you could

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have covered if you had gone
clubbing actually, which we

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never quite got around to and
that was fine.

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But even what you saw the
Mexican cult very disorganized.

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They don't fucking know what
they were doing.

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They were a bunch of morons.
They were deadly.

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They had killer birds of like a
crazy mouse shit and whatever.

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But they they were like people
traded three ways from Sunday

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and all this stuff.
Yeah.

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Dangerous and intelligent are
not always.

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00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,680
Yeah, yeah, you can give a dog a
knife and it's dangerous.

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I Where would the dog hold the
knife?

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And in its maw.
His mouth, I guess, or.

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You could just like, tape it to
its tail.

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Oh, that'd be scary.
That would be dangerous.

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Have you played Dark Souls
dance?

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I mean, I've played Dark Souls.
Yes, I know about the dog you

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fight.
Yeah, yeah, the dog would wield

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the knife the way Sif wields
that sword.

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Just, you know.
I don't, I don't know Dark Souls

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lore that well.
I didn't.

395
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Is that in the DLC where you
fight the dog back in time and

396
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fight the dog?
No, that's in the main game.

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The DLC you buy and don't tell
you how to even get it.

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So you buy the DLC and you're
just like and if if you did the

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wrong stuff, you can't even get
to the DLC even though you've

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already bought it with real
money.

401
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Yeah, welcome to Dark Souls.
Get good.

402
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,920
Yeah, that it is.
Sounds like Dark Souls.

403
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:53,720
Oh, I think.
Oh yeah, go ahead.

404
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I was about to say it's a
highlight, but it's more

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important.
Than you do important might be

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generous.
I think a highlight for me was

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the attack by bird scene.
Oh yeah, yeah, obviously you got

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you know spooky bird attack and
the agony of trying to find as

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many bird sounds as I needed for
that.

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But the party immediately
splits.

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I come up with a a daring plan
that was like, oh, that's,

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that's great, it's going to
work.

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I got one hand, oh, this isn't
going to work that.

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Was good.
The stuff in the kitchen was all

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a lot of fun with that, yeah.
Yeah, it's nice having a a

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confident plan, but also framing
it in a way that makes my

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character look like an idiot.
Yes.

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That is pretty good.
For myself, I'm going to have to

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say I like the, I guess the, I
guess the best way to say it is

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I kind of like the chase in this
one.

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The way that the investigation
was laid out, I think was like

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the pace of it, how like for,
you know, including stuff like

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the bird attack and stuff like
that.

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I think that was well done and
sticks out them as far as what I

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like the most about this one.
Yeah, it played a little

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differently than some of the
other.

427
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I also, I don't talk about this
a lot, but again, this is

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adapted from a published
product.

429
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,200
The Eternal Lies is a published
book, but this Mexico 1 I

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changed up a lot.
I know some people online have

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said that the Mexico 1 is maybe
the weakest chapter in the the

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published adventure, so I did a
lot of change.

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00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,360
Well, fair enough.
Props to your changes because I

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thought this was quite strong.
Yeah, I thought it was.

435
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Yeah.
You know, there was.

436
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There's like a Mary Sue like
girl character who knows a

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different song that you could
sing to counteract the music of

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the mouths and then you're
supposed to get thrown into a

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doesn't and I know that might
sound slightly gross.

440
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,240
Doesn't.
You know, I mean, I could see.

441
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Although you were gonna run into
her if you had gone to the club,

442
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,480
but she wasn't gonna be as
important of a character.

443
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920
Yeah.
Like I can see having like a

444
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counter song that you could
find, but like, yeah, that

445
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doesn't sound like the way it's
published doesn't sound.

446
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Yeah, she was gonna, you know,
she's supposed to come with you

447
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and you're supposed to fall in
love with her and blah, blah and

448
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all this stuff.
And it's very railroady in a

449
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weird way.
And it's like if you'd run into

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her, she would have taught you a
counter song.

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My favorite?
I kind of wish we'd have done

452
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that because then I could just
see Colin being the one to learn

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the song, which would make it so
Russell would have to sing it.

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I like dumb.
Actually great.

455
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This is stupid, but a tiny
little moment that I liked it.

456
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Maybe you guys won't care for
this is when you're descending

457
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,760
into the Colts stronghold.
I'm like OK, so is there

458
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080
anything else you need to do to
prepare?

459
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,680
Anything else you want to do
before you want to prepare?

460
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,600
After asking you several times,
I can establish you didn't have.

461
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,360
Any question, I wasn't mad at
you, I was mad at myself for

462
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:11,720
forgetting.
I liked in that one you said

463
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,880
Nope Nope.
I gave you an extra long time

464
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200
because I didn't remove a pause
in that That was all 2 seconds.

465
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Whoops, I asked you several
times.

466
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Yep, there were hints.
I get it.

467
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,680
I was pretty nice about the
earplugs working most of the

468
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,520
time anyway.
Yeah, yeah, it is crazy Cthulhu

469
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,160
magic, so.
I'll just, I'll just have a

470
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,840
cannibal cult.
What?

471
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
What that's I'm lying.
That's not cannibals.

472
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,040
That's exactly what you would
say if.

473
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,640
Yeah, that it.
That is, if it were Hannibal.

474
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,200
That is a little racist,
actually.

475
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480
No, that's fair.
I mean, to be fair, this whole

476
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,240
thing about like, there's,
there's weirdness about all of

477
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,040
this stuff, but that's Lovecraft
maybe.

478
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Yeah, Yep.
Yeah, yeah.

479
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,520
That reminds me of a point I was
thinking of a while ago.

480
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Jerry's still out on whether
Daniel hates women or not.

481
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,840
Eternal Lies definitely hates
women.

482
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Why do you say that?
Let's see.

483
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,800
OK so taking out all the player
stuff, we've got a woman whose

484
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,200
breast is maimed and it got
taken out of this one because of

485
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,280
red card X card lines and veils.
But Della Luz was supposed to be

486
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:39,840
pregnant when it's like why?
Why is eternal lies massacring

487
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,560
women in this way or maiming
women in their woman this?

488
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,800
It is.
It's a choice.

489
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,760
That all of the almost all of
the male villains that the game

490
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,760
has are just dudes by and large.
Yeah.

491
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,840
I will say the leader of the
Bangkok cult is a kick ass woman

492
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,200
who has no weird gender stuff
about her.

493
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,720
But you are correct, there has
been some.

494
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,600
There's definitely mixed it up.
Yeah.

495
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160
And I'm not going to lie, you
know, maybe I am partially.

496
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,160
I have leaned into some of that
a little bit because, you know,

497
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,560
maybe I play too much Silent
Hill, even though, like, I

498
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,680
picked up the most recent Silent
Hill game, Silent Hill F, And,

499
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,000
you know, you run into the first
monsters and I was like, oh,

500
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,080
wow.
Is it a sort of this grotesque

501
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,880
female form whose sexuality is
kind of intimidating but also

502
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,360
alluring?
Oh, wow.

503
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,000
Who would have thought this
would be a villain in this

504
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280
horror game, In this Silent Hill
game?

505
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,120
Never changed.
Silent Hill, wasn't there a but

506
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,320
yeah, wasn't there a villain, a
female villain in Malta who was

507
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800
just a lady?
Yeah, she was actually.

508
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,200
You didn't really.
Yeah, she was the one who was

509
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,760
actually sort of in charge over
Donnie.

510
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Yeah.
Yeah, Donovan.

511
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,120
She fucked my shit up if I
recall correctly.

512
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Yeah, she did, Yeah.
Although if you want to talk

513
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,480
about women getting killed,
daughter that did sacrifice his

514
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320
wife.
Yeah, I was going to mention

515
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,200
that one.
Yeah, that's the yeah.

516
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Great, great sacrifice grades,
great power.

517
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,080
I want you all to remember that.
Write that down on like a card.

518
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,200
Think about that.
It's going to be important for

519
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,200
the.
Future I remember it.

520
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,920
Are you actually telling people
to kill women now?

521
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840
Renee's back you.
Got Renee's back.

522
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,880
I heard that you guys were
hating on Daniel, hating women,

523
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520
so I had to appear.
It's like my mating call

524
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,920
basically.
Now.

525
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,120
Now, largely, we were hating on
eternal lies.

526
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Hating on women, yes.
But I have leaned into

527
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,080
something.
Actually, stop talking over me.

528
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,520
Sorry.
Do women actually feature in

529
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,880
Lovecraft in any meaningful way?
Meaningful way.

530
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,560
No, not.
That I would call it really No,

531
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800
probably in the.
Background somewhere.

532
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920
Just like existing.
I presumably.

533
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,480
I don't in like my favorite
Lovecraft story, Bounds of

534
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Madness.
I'm pretty sure there are no

535
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440
women.
I don't think there is a single

536
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,960
woman in that Arctic.
Exit.

537
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Oh, is that why it's your
favorite?

538
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,080
Of course, in In Dance Defense,
I'm going through every single

539
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,600
Lovecraft story I've read and I
can't think of a single female

540
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,160
character.
Yeah, I'm.

541
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840
So.
Like no consequential

542
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,960
characters, not that I can think
of even in the like Lovecraft

543
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,480
being stories that weren't
written by Lovecraft.

544
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,160
There is one where the
antagonist character is

545
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,480
frustrated that they didn't have
a daughter or a son or a

546
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000
grandson because they wanted to
steal their body.

547
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,520
That's the only one that pops
into my mind.

548
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,080
I remember, I remember what?
Half woman, half ape.

549
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Oh yeah, yeah, I I do remember
that one, Yeah.

550
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Yeah, he received her body in
the coffin and he went insane.

551
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600
With.
The horror of realizing that he

552
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,080
was related to this creature
that was half woman, half

553
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,440
primate.
I had to.

554
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,000
Look up, you know, oh buff craft
had some issues with women and

555
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640
minorities and.
Some.

556
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280
Everyone, yeah, he's kind of a
piece of shit, yeah.

557
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,960
They there's a Miss Tilton who
is like a a curator of a like

558
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920
the Historical Society who
provides a lot of useful

559
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,840
information to the protagonist.
We got one, we got one.

560
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Done with your.
Family in it.

561
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Presumably there are women in
that.

562
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Anyway, now that Renee's back,
we can ask her some of the

563
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,640
things that from the questions
that you missed.

564
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,080
For starters, our characters
started romancing each other.

565
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,480
That happened to this arc.
It did.

566
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Yeah, I've.
Been enjoying this greatly.

567
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,280
As have I.
Have I?

568
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,080
Have I?
Have I told people that I am,

569
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,560
what's the word, a hardcore
shipper and the slash writer in

570
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,120
the past?
Can confirm.

571
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Yeah.
I respect it, yeah.

572
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,040
Yeah, I'm one.
I'm one of those women who

573
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,920
enjoys thinking about male
characters having romantic

574
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,800
relationships and or dirty wild
sex.

575
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Hey, I'm one of the men who
enjoys thinking about men doing

576
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,920
that, so you know.
There you go.

577
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,240
It is what it is.
And.

578
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,000
What it is, is beautiful.
No, no, fujoshi is the

579
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,880
derogatory version of that term.
You call somebody a fujoshi if

580
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,040
they're an asshole about it.
Oh, I just thought fujoshi,

581
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,360
you're just women who like men
that kiss each other.

582
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,560
I didn't realize that it was a.
Yeah, no, I've never heard

583
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,200
fujoshi.
In.

584
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,320
A.
In a positive manner.

585
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Ever.
Oh, OK, I I've.

586
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Never heard that word, period.
It's it's anime shit.

587
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,680
Yeah, there you go.
I have heard.

588
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,800
I have heard it in reference to
St.

589
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,760
Joshi, the foremost living
expert on HP Lovecraft.

590
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:48,200
OK OK my my first ever fanfic
was on Shut Up.

591
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520
I'm sorry, I was blown away.
I was still being blown away by

592
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400
the SD Joshi joke.
It was taking me a moment to

593
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880
really appreciate it.
I just have to give Russell the

594
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,840
props for that.
I'm sorry that I talked over

595
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920
you, but I just, that's a very
good bit.

596
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,760
Continue.
I'm sorry I told you to shut up.

597
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,080
I was just about to like open up
here and you started talking

598
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,719
over me again, so I'm sorry I
overreacted.

599
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:16,760
Anyway, continue my first ever
fanfic I wrote on Leo Tolstoy

600
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:27,239
War and Peace.
It was Pierre and the other male

601
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,679
man person and it was very short
and it was very bad.

602
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,840
But I still remember it very
fondly because I mean, come on,

603
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,360
cut me some slack.
I was like 13.

604
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Yeah, it's.
Fair enough.

605
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,199
Short, bad, and very fond
experience is the ideal first

606
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,800
fanfic.
Exactly.

607
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,800
And like, I just watched that
basically internationally made

608
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,440
movie from different filming
crews and different actors from

609
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,800
different countries, and that's
when everything kind of made

610
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,520
sense and people were kind of
coexisting peacefully with each

611
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,040
other.
So it was very cute and very

612
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:15,480
pure, at least in my mind, in my
adolescent mind.

613
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,320
My first fanfic was a Daria
fanfic, but we don't need to go

614
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,520
and.
Yeah, I.

615
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,360
I didn't have anything except
pen and paper for too long, so I

616
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,760
never wrote any fanfics, but if
I'd had a computer I absolutely

617
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,760
would have.
Yeah, my first fanfic was a oh

618
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,920
God, I'm about to telling myself
something fierce.

619
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320
A pen and paper Homestuck
fanfic.

620
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,760
Yes, there you go, Homestuck.
Baby because Homestuck was big

621
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,400
when I was in middle school, and
that was when I was getting into

622
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080
writing.
So jeez, I remember when that

623
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,920
started and I was still an
adult.

624
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,680
Yeah, I'm, I'm too old for
Homestuck.

625
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,240
I don't know what that is.
Did you make did you have a

626
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,800
troll?
Yeah, those everybody has their

627
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,920
trolls for Homestuck.
That's the thing, right?

628
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,920
I did not I did not have a troll
Sona I I I did not make.

629
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:20,040
I learned a new word today.
All right, anyway, before I dig

630
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,640
myself any deeper, Renee, was
there a highlight of the arc for

631
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,720
you?
In my first pan pick or.

632
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,760
No, no, no.
We're talking about the Mexico.

633
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,880
City, we're back to the going
back to Mexico.

634
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,760
That question while you were
with Jake.

635
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,240
Yeah, yeah.
OK, the, the whole, you know,

636
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960
yeah, okay.
It was.

637
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,120
It was me turning into human
Shield basically for two entire

638
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,160
episodes.
That.

639
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,600
Was incredible, taking so much
damage.

640
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:54,840
There were so many bullets in
me.

641
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,560
They all got pulled out.
If there was any question of

642
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,040
whether we were doing a more
purist or more more pulpy

643
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Lovecraft adventure, I think
it's been established firmly

644
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,280
that this is some bulb level
shit.

645
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,640
Yeah, I, I honestly, I don't
think our group would make a

646
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,520
really good purist group.
We are a little too off the

647
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,600
wall.
Yeah, yeah.

648
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:26,280
The very first adventure we did
where you guys were worms and

649
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,280
that that would well, not
everybody was in that.

650
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Not everybody here was in that
one that that was kind of, well,

651
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,000
no Doctor moron over here was
kind of made it a little.

652
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,200
Silly but.
Married and it still counts.

653
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,280
Would you still love me if I was
a worm?

654
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:52,000
No,
no, there are a lot.

655
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Of question to that dance of the
blood.

656
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,760
But that is definitely a story
where the question would you

657
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:03,960
still love me if I was a worm?
Should come up face.

658
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
If you haven't heard it, you
should listen to that episode.

659
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,600
But we kind of spoiled it.
Yeah, it's isn't it like our

660
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,920
wasn't it like our first episode
it?

661
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,680
Was our first episode and then
it got rehastered at some point.

662
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,600
The first episode of it got
rematched.

663
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,600
The first it was three parts.
Gotcha.

664
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120
OK, can we go back to how
awesome and hot I am?

665
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Sure.
What?

666
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,720
Oh yeah.
I mean both answers work like.

667
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Thank you.
I don't see the issue here.

668
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Nathan, you're a sweetheart.
Anyway, yeah, this, this whole

669
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520
thing was awesome.
Taking all of the damage and

670
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,320
saving all the people.
That was nice.

671
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Yeah.
Yeah.

672
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,320
Also romancing JB.
Yeah, there you go.

673
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Yeah, I think overall Mexico was
kind of a victory for you guys.

674
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,240
Like, you know, it wasn't, it's
never super pleasant, but y'all

675
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:09,040
came out alive at the end and
just stopped the cult here and

676
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,960
you found important information.
Like I think all of that, like

677
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880
this has been probably the most
successful 1 you did.

678
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, thinking about it now,

679
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:23,280
after informing Gomez what was
going on, we probably could have

680
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,000
just left and it would have
taken care of itself.

681
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,080
Like it did in LA?
No better than that.

682
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Because.
You're an optimist, yeah.

683
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,360
We we still had to firebomb the
place.

684
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,800
Yeah.
The the that was Gomez.

685
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,200
You are right.
Gomez did show up.

686
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,800
Yeah, I guess he didn't like the
dynamite.

687
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,440
So, you know, Yeah.
Stole his kills, Yeah.

688
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Yeah, this is reminding me of,
gosh, I played, I played a Star

689
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Wars campaign a while back.
It went on for a while with my

690
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,680
friends and they were like
scoundrels and like criminals

691
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,680
and whatnot.
And one of the things they kept

692
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200
doing was, and I had to
eventually tell them we have to

693
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,080
stop doing this.
They would just call The

694
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,360
Imperials on the other criminals
and just be like, hey, get them.

695
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,920
They're they're criminals.
They're bad.

696
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,320
You go get.
Them Russell had that idea.

697
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,520
And they say there's all you
wanted.

698
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,880
To sick the fascists on the
cult, yeah.

699
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Yeah, sick the fascists on.
Your stuff, yeah, we did

700
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,120
consider trying that.
Yeah, I don't.

701
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,720
Know, I mean, we, we don't know
it yet, but fascists did a lot

702
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,720
worse later on, a lot worse
stuff.

703
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Yeah, continue to.
Yeah.

704
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,800
Oh yeah, yeah.
Mm hmm.

705
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,200
We don't call them Nazis
anymore.

706
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Maybe in our world that we're
doing, maybe after you stop this

707
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,360
lying thing, maybe that will end
up making the world a better

708
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,600
place.
Maybe Hitler will shoot himself

709
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,760
early.
I don't know.

710
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,440
This is the timeline where
Kearns kills Hitler.

711
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Heartache.
The movie Terminator is based on

712
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,240
Kearns.
That made it into an episode.

713
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,560
Oh yeah.
Remember that?

714
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:18,440
Yeah, cut takes.
Kearns invented pro wrestling.

715
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,800
Pro wrestling exists before the
1930s, but sure.

716
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,440
And Kearns invented, I think.
It's yeah, Hang on.

717
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:36,320
I think it's called Greco Roman
something combat wrestling,

718
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,080
Where basically it's 2 two.
Yeah, that.

719
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920
There you go.
Where?

720
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:46,640
Two naked oil men, you know,
sodomites, I mean, antagonize

721
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,680
each other.
And Kerns came up with that.

722
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,400
Not the Greeks or the Romans.
Kerns just decided to call it

723
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Greco Roman Wrestling.
No, Kerns decided to call it pro

724
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
wrestling.
He's the one who turned it from

725
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Greco Roman to Pro.
That that was, that was Kerns.

726
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,440
Sure.
I remember now.

727
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,400
OK, so Kerns has to survive this
adventure in order to stop

728
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,440
Hitler.
No, I'm.

729
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,400
I'm invulnerable.
Daniel can't kill me.

730
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:19,600
No.
OK, you can't keep saying.

731
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,280
Try as you might.
Let's not push our luck though.

732
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,720
You can't kill me.
I've got a.

733
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,800
Half like I.
Understand.

734
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,960
I mean misogynist.
It it could lead to interesting

735
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,080
story development for JB.
Yeah, I'll kill a woman.

736
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,240
Well, I guess I wouldn't really
be killing a woman because I'd

737
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,360
be killing a man to further a
man's story.

738
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,080
You know the.
Keep telling yourself that.

739
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,720
I've invented neo non bad
fridging now.

740
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,960
It's still bad.
No, that's not fridging, that's

741
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,040
bury your gaze.
That's just.

742
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:09,560
As bad.
Is that a sex thing I'm not

743
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,040
familiar with or?
No, it's a trope you do like

744
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,120
when you have gay characters,
they're the ones who get killed

745
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,920
off.
Yeah.

746
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Oh yeah.
Oh, OK.

747
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Often.
Often I knew that, I just didn't

748
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,680
know the word for it.
Yeah, yeah.

749
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,520
It's it's what they did with
Castillo and Supernatural.

750
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Big time.
Instead of the Super hell.

751
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Didn't they kill him?
Immediately as he confessed his

752
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
feelings for Dean.
Yeah.

753
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,240
I've not watched that show but
I've been told multiple times

754
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680
that that guy got sent to super
hell as soon as he said that he

755
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,360
loved the man Is that?
Correct.

756
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:55,480
That is exactly what happened
and it happened in this what

757
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,280
happened, they actually the show
got to go.

758
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,080
To heaven though the car got to
go to heaven.

759
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,160
My brother watched that show.
Of course it was a good car.

760
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:13,240
Every, every series, every piece
of media out there, whoever

761
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:16,360
decides to portray a queer
relationship should follow the

762
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,840
example of Hannibal.
Brian Fuller's Hannibal, that

763
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,000
is.
It is so good I'm writing a

764
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,960
paper on it.
Yeah, hell yeah.

765
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,040
And it's a good paper for
everything you've shown me.

766
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,680
So anyway.
Right, The Prof I I got 93 out

767
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,640
of 100 for the research
proposal.

768
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,120
I think that we may have gone
off she.

769
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,400
Said it's a fantastic.
Topic this.

770
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,280
Is great Talk about Russell, did
you have any more questions

771
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,720
about the show that we wanted to
answer?

772
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Several.
Oh.

773
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,440
OK, so I started thinking about
this a while ago when I put an

774
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,320
interruption in an episode and I
thought, have that started as a

775
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,720
bit because of all the stupid
names we came up with for the

776
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:00,560
city in low places.
And the show's, you know, grown

777
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,520
and changed as we have learned
how to do stuff and function as

778
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,000
a group.
So the question is, what's

779
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,160
something the show has picked up
along the way that you can't

780
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,440
imagine we never had or did?
Me.

781
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,240
I was gonna say, like, Renee's
kind of a core part of the group

782
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:21,000
now, like.
Yeah, but like.

783
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,120
In terms of like other things
that are not an actual human

784
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,000
person.
I would say one of the things

785
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,800
that's definitely, I think it's,
it's very simple, but it's a

786
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,240
good thing to do is when we're
getting a little bit too goofy,

787
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,320
you just say this is sort of the
interruption thing that you're

788
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,360
talking about.
You just do the quick like

789
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,040
static sound and then you get
back to doing what we're talking

790
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,880
about.
Like that's just a little bit of

791
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,440
a thing that didn't exist
before.

792
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,520
We either cut it all out or let
it ramble on for too long.

793
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200
But now it's you could be very
cool, like, OK, no, we're enough

794
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,000
here.
Yeah.

795
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,640
For anybody who's listening, all
of the rambling gets left in the

796
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,320
Patreon kit.
It's kind of fun for me 'cause I

797
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,160
can have the We Are Complete
Morons cut for Patreon and then

798
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,880
something a little more dramatic
for the main feed, no?

799
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,920
You're complete morons.
Yeah.

800
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:20,840
I am fabulous.
Sure, Any other thoughts on

801
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:28,240
stuff that got added?
So my answer for this one is

802
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:31,560
kind of more of a less of a like
what we've added on the

803
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,480
technological or editing side of
things and more what we've

804
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,320
gained as a group.
We can all play off each other a

805
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:47,120
lot better if we were to compare
like, you know, the current arc

806
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:56,120
of eternal lies to, you know,
our first episodes Let's we we

807
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,280
understand how each of us plays
a little bit better than we did

808
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,200
then.
And I think that only adds to

809
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
what we do here as.
That's a good one.

810
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:06,360
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

811
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,400
I feel like in the beginning a
lot of Nathan's panic was just

812
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560
dealing with new people instead
of what was going on in the

813
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,600
event.
I I plead the 5th.

814
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,720
Well, that Nathan ran that whole
campaign very well for a while,

815
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,160
though again, the trick is yeah,
yeah, that was a good one.

816
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,360
Low places.
No, finish that thought, Dan.

817
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,680
I'm I'm curious.
Wait, what did did I not finish

818
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,160
my thought?
I was just saying that was the,

819
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,160
you didn't seem nervous for that
one though.

820
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,160
I guess it was the same people
after a while, but you know.

821
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,080
Yeah.
That's all.

822
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,680
That and I think.
And I did, he did specifically

823
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:55,840
bring in like 2 people who I've
worked with for years as a thing

824
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,840
so and.
I don't know, I was about to say

825
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,880
I I think Nathan was more
flabbergasted than anxious

826
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,840
through that one.
You guys did a lot to flabber my

827
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,880
ghast that is for sure.
I promise to never say that

828
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,800
again.
I mean, another thing that

829
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,920
changed was like originally we
didn't do campaigns like.

830
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,880
That.
Yeah, yeah, that's big.

831
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,160
That's big.
Yeah, which is, you know, to be

832
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,400
fair, it's not how I usually
envision the podcast, but I'm

833
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,920
having a good time with them
anyway, so.

834
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,920
Same here.
Oh, if anybody's curious about

835
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,160
why we changed that, it's
because running the campaign

836
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,240
gives people a reason to keep
listening.

837
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,680
Yeah, nothing wrong with one
shots.

838
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,720
We all like one shots.
We're gonna run more.

839
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,480
Yeah, yes.
But bit of continuity.

840
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Exactly, I missed we could do
more of everybody being Dex

841
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,160
Raymond.
Yes, we got it.

842
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Yes.
We have at least have to have

843
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,720
Damien be dictionary.
Yeah, I still, I still haven't

844
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,120
been in DAK, but that was
because I chose.

845
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Damien gotta do.
It yeah, I chose the the other

846
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,400
option rather than Dax Raymond
given.

847
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Oh, it's all good.
Oh God, I remember that one in

848
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,120
the show notes.
I was like, in this one we

849
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,520
discover how many times we can
describe women's clothing is

850
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,160
bad.
That's a weird one for that.

851
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,520
There you go.
Whatever.

852
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:33,920
We're not.
We're not beating the

853
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,680
allegations anytime soon, are
we?

854
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,920
No, people are writing Lovecraft
adventures.

855
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,080
It's all them.
Right.

856
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,080
Yeah, we're, we're playing.
I don't know the context so I'm

857
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:50,600
not going to say anything.
The next one, do you want to?

858
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,160
Yeah.
Do you have anything to add?

859
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:55,880
No.
OK, on to the next one then.

860
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,480
What appeals to you about the
audio podcast medium as opposed

861
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,520
to others?
I could start on this one.

862
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:03,920
Please do.
All right.

863
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160
I don't.
I have no reason to get my face

864
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,520
on the Internet.
Just no, it's OK.

865
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:17,080
And the fact that I can actually
play around with sound effects

866
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,120
in the order of things,
although, you know, I keep it

867
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,360
more or less honest for the
show.

868
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,760
I just, I just like being able
to do that.

869
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,400
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, yeah.

870
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,120
Hey, look at me.
Look at me right here.

871
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,440
You watching this right here.
Look.

872
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,560
Look at my eyes.
Fuck video podcast.

873
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,400
No, I think it totally.
Works to say that.

874
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:42,320
But I don't, I think especially
for actual play, I think it's no

875
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,600
good.
I think it definitely

876
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:53,040
establishes a sort of vibe that
like, look, if we had like

877
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,440
producers who are getting paid a
bunch of money and whatnot, we

878
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,400
could edit the video.
Because let me tell you, editing

879
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,280
is what makes a good actual play
podcast.

880
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,000
It needs to be edited down to
become a thing.

881
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,760
That is my opinion anyway.
Some people like it all loosey

882
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,080
goosey.
I think that's trash.

883
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,160
I think everything needs to be
edited to be made better.

884
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,920
And when you guys are watching
your Dimension 20s, don't you

885
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,560
think that they're not editing
that?

886
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,520
OK, They're editing out a lot of
that stuff, but.

887
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,880
Yeah, they mentioned 20, yes,
absolutely.

888
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960
But but Legend of Evantress is
doing something right because

889
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,120
they yes their sessions are like
3 hours long and yes there's a

890
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:46,480
lot of like strange random
noises and shit but their stuff

891
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,200
is great.
So many cans opening.

892
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,800
So many cans opening, just just
laughter for minutes at a time,

893
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,320
you know, and.
That's.

894
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,200
But that's Go.
Ahead, sorry.

895
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,520
That's kind of what I like about
the video medium because like we

896
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:08,840
we like, yes, Russell does an
amazing job with the editing and

897
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,760
the sound effects, but with the
video I think we could play off

898
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,240
of each other better 'cause we
would like watch for facial

899
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,000
cues.
I for one have a very expressive

900
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,040
face.
Now one thing I can say with

901
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,920
that is we could still use video
for that and just record an

902
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,440
audio, which is something I was
actually gonna probably suggest

903
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,080
when we sit down and talk next
cuz that for that exact reason

904
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Renee is it would help us
playoff.

905
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,040
I will probably be looking at
my.

906
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,480
Notes the whole.
Time, but sure.

907
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,360
Yeah.
No, we don't need to see you.

908
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,720
We did that once or twice and
then a couple people got sick at

909
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,160
the same time, so we didn't want
to be on video and then we just

910
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,760
never did it again.
I should.

911
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,440
Go back to video.
Yeah, for the record, while I

912
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,680
don't care for video podcasts,
obviously podcasts out there who

913
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,800
do good stuff, just like Renee
was funny, I just, you know, be

914
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,080
I like to take strong positions.
I'm over here saying Dark Souls

915
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,440
2 is the best 1.
You know, stuff like that.

916
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:15,160
Oh boy, time.
Time for another one of Daniel's

917
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,960
hot takes from the podcast,
Daniel's Hot Takes, where Daniel

918
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:27,000
shares all of his hot takes.
Anyway, let's talk about Final

919
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,280
Fantasy 16 anyway.
Final Fantasy 16.

920
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,160
But it's.
The worst Final Fantasy and it's

921
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,600
not even close.
OK, moving on.

922
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Sorry, I'm gonna kill you
anyway.

923
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,080
What appeals to me about D?
And D is the best.

924
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,960
What What appeals to me about
audio mediums is that I think

925
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,360
I'm a decent voice actor.
It's pretty much the long and

926
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,120
short of it is I do think I am a
pretty solid voice actor.

927
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,000
I haven't been doing a lot of
good voice acting in this

928
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,120
podcast in particular, but even
still, that aspect is something

929
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,080
that I really enjoy about
podcasts.

930
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,200
I think when you're in the zone,
your acting is amazing.

931
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,680
Thank you I.
But but also you're, you're,

932
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,080
you're delightful to look at.
You're very cute.

933
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Seeing you just puts a smile on
my face.

934
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Thank you.
So I would say the video is very

935
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,640
nice.
The main way that I listen to

936
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,480
podcasts is like, I'm at work
and I can't really be looking at

937
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,200
a screen when I'm doing that.
So the video of it all is wasted

938
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,160
on me, especially because I sort
of came up on podcasts when

939
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,960
there wasn't real.
So I just truly, it does not

940
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,360
even occur to me for there to be
video part of podcasts, whereas

941
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,560
other people are just like, Oh
yeah, podcasts.

942
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,600
That's where you watch a video
of two guys talking to each

943
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,560
other.
Like, it's just, you know, times

944
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,560
have changed.
Or for people imagining things

945
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,280
for four hours.
Yeah, what if video recordings

946
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,560
can go on Patreon?
A lot of shows do that, yeah.

947
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,760
I think we don't need to plan
that during our yeah.

948
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,880
Yeah, true.
OK, OK.

949
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,440
For I don't know.
I just came up with an idea.

950
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,880
Yeah, yeah.
Fair enough from.

951
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:30,120
David, what were you saying?
From my Part I, it's on the

952
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,720
technical end of things, I kind
of prefer doing the audio format

953
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:37,520
for a lot of the reasons that
are like one of the reasons that

954
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,480
Daniel just said.
Most people that listen to this

955
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,600
sort of podcast or this sort of
content listen to it rather than

956
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,360
watch it.
And when looking at like the

957
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040
hierarchy of importance and
stuff like that, on technical

958
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,440
end of things, audio is more
important than video for various

959
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,880
reasons, mainly because people
listen more than they watch.

960
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,200
But as far as like actually
doing it, what appeals to me is

961
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:15,400
it, I think it adds a certain
something to this format and

962
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,520
that being the imagination of
because as much as we can

963
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,880
describe our how our characters
look and it'll give a basic

964
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,760
description of the person
listening, they're the ones who

965
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,240
are filling in the the details.
And I think it helps them engage

966
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,880
more.
I know it does with me when I'm

967
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,040
listening because like I like to
listen to like audio and it

968
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,200
helps me engage because I can
then.

969
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,400
OK, So yeah, they're the
characters described like this,

970
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:48,560
but you know, maybe it had they
have these embellishments that

971
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,800
aren't necessarily mentioned or
are a tool.

972
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Yeah, yeah.
Do we have one more question

973
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,600
there, Russell, or was that the
last one or is there even?

974
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,680
More.
Oh, I've got three more, but we

975
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,080
could probably wrap up.
Yeah.

976
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,560
So I'm going to skip skip two of
them and go to What's something

977
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,640
from the show that sticks in
your head in the same way as a

978
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,240
perfect comeback does?
Something you wish had done

979
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,160
differently?
For example, I discovered I had

980
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,880
something for Desert Winds in
the final minutes of editing the

981
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,680
last episode in the Ethiopia
arc.

982
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,320
What do you mean you had
something for desert winds?

983
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,680
A sound effect.
Oh yeah, sound effects and

984
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,840
stuff.
Oh, it's like all that desert

985
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,760
times, like completely no sound
effects.

986
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Just just be like, sure is hot
out here in this desert that

987
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,040
we're in.
Something that sticks with me

988
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:45,600
that I wanted to do.
I never did do an episode of Low

989
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Places about the wet web.
Yeah, yeah.

990
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,560
That sounds like a bit.
It has genuinely haunted me

991
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,160
since the end of Low Places
because I was like, shit, I

992
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,600
really want to do something with
that.

993
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,520
Yeah.
It sounds so unappetizing, I'm

994
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,120
kind of glad you didn't.
We are a horror podcast.

995
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,200
Technically, yeah.
I mean I think it wasn't exactly

996
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,720
up to me, it was up to the dice
roller thing on roll 20, but I

997
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:21,280
really wish I hadn't rolled the
one when I was on Full Auto.

998
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Yeah, attractive.
That that was such a for the.

999
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Audience at home.
You.

1000
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Heard in everyone's voice was
real.

1001
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Yeah, Yep.
Genuine.

1002
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,480
Honestly, God despair.
Yeah.

1003
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,080
I'm not doing the sanity and
stability.

1004
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,960
Such a kick in the balls.
That's that's my thing.

1005
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,560
I feel like I'm not keeping you
guys honest enough.

1006
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,400
I'm not, I'm not hitting your
sanity enough.

1007
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,080
And maybe you think that I
already am, but I'm truly not

1008
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,360
doing enough of them.
I feel like I haven't truly

1009
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,960
driven you insane.
Like I should be in the system

1010
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,200
I'm being maybe a little bit and
like that's fine, I guess, but

1011
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,240
like it's Lovecraft.
You guys should be more insane.

1012
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280
I mean, there's still pie.
Do you actually want us to be

1013
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,480
able to do things though, like
move the plot forward in any

1014
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,600
reason, like meaningful way, you
know?

1015
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,360
That is a fair question.
Or.

1016
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,120
Welcome to the balance of all of
this stuff, since Sandy Peterson

1017
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,480
just said that this should be
the role-playing game that we

1018
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,440
do, you know?
Yeah, well, what the fuck do

1019
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,120
they know?
I I know nothing about Sandy

1020
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,040
Peterson, so.
His Doom levels suck.

1021
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,480
Yeah, he he worked on Doom.
Which one?

1022
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Doom and Doom 2, the original he
worked for it the first one.

1023
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:50,760
Yeah.
Damn.

1024
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,560
Yeah, he also helped make Age of
Empires, and then he also wrote

1025
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,000
he was the chief author of
Called Anyway.

1026
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,400
That's quite interesting change.
Yeah.

1027
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,120
Also he's a right wing crank so
that's less.

1028
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,040
OK, there it is.
Less interesting.

1029
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,120
All right.
But also summer, that level is

1030
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,600
not very good.
In Doom 2, all of your levels

1031
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,400
are bad.
Sandy Peterson, the Doom heads

1032
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:22,160
know what I'm talking about.
But my point?

1033
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Is campfire card now?
I guess we could do that.

1034
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200
My the thing I was just going to
say, despite blaming Sandy

1035
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,600
Peterson, it is the eternal
problem of the Lovecraft game

1036
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,040
where you want to drive people
crazy, you want things to

1037
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,400
happen.
Yeah.

1038
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:40,120
Yeah.
Anything stuck in your head,

1039
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,160
David?
Anything stuck in your craw?

1040
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:49,840
Not really like, that's fine.
I I kind of wish, like I kind of

1041
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,200
wish that I would have saved a
little bit more stability on

1042
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,640
Reggie so that I didn't have to
take him out exactly the way I

1043
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,120
did.
But I mean, it's how the story

1044
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,160
played out and I'm not
dissatisfied with it, so.

1045
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,240
Yeah, So Renee has suggested we
do a Campfire card.

1046
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,000
This, these.
Oh, that doesn't work.

1047
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,960
Yeah, apparently.
It's just yeah, so that.

1048
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,600
Didn't work, no.
Anyway, ultimate RPG campfire

1049
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,680
card deck.
It's from James D'amato who does

1050
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,600
the one shot podcast and
campaign Skyjacks.

1051
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Oh, I guess he doesn't do one
shot anymore.

1052
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,640
He doesn't do one shot
replacement.

1053
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,520
That's true, yeah.
They aren't paying for paying us

1054
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,680
for them, but they are.
I think good.

1055
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,560
That's one of these are
questions for.

1056
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Independent Show.
So these are questions for our

1057
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,040
characters then?
Yeah.

1058
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,000
OK.
So I will, I will watch.

1059
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,920
Yeah, yeah.
One of the things I like about

1060
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,720
doing an independent show is
that we can talk about or not

1061
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,720
talk about whatever we want.
Yeah, exactly.

1062
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,120
We don't get a pass.
This is true How?

1063
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,680
About one of these three.
All right, what do you consider

1064
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,840
your most useless talent to be,
and what makes you think it's

1065
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,400
useless?
Or our character, and these are

1066
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,880
these are for our characters.
Yes, Yep.

1067
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,720
So if you stuck around this
long, it's in.

1068
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,400
Canon content.
Here actual in character stuff.

1069
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,640
I'm going to look at my
character sheet on roll 20.

1070
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,240
Yeah, makes you think, doesn't
it?

1071
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,680
Well, while you're thinking, I
just want to mention Icon of

1072
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Sin.
Really terrible boss fight.

1073
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Sandy, what are we doing is.
That one quake, no.

1074
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,040
No, that's the and boss of Doom
2.

1075
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,600
Though Sandy did do a couple
Quake levels as well.

1076
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,560
Yeah.
I think Colin would consider his

1077
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,760
most useless talent to be
disguised.

1078
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,320
There's no reason he picked that
up.

1079
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,000
He's really excited to have had
a couple chances to use it

1080
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,840
during this whole thing.
Yeah.

1081
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,920
All right.
And he also picked this up

1082
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,720
before he got into detective
work, so it was even more

1083
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,040
useless as an accountant.
Yeah, I can see that.

1084
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,520
I would have to say for small
you know what it would be his

1085
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:29,000
knowledge of Latin Like sure it
comes up in like medical texts

1086
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,320
and stuff like that and you know
knowing some Latin words is

1087
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:39,680
handy but useful not so much.
There's a tiny chance it might

1088
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,200
have been useful in Malta or
other places in Europe, but

1089
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,920
where you are now there's not a
lot of written down Latin.

1090
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,320
Yeah, no, I don't suspect there
will be either.

1091
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,080
OK, so I know Latin.
I know Latin.

1092
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,560
And you told me that it was
completely useless in Malta when

1093
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,000
I tried to, like, read
something.

1094
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,320
I think that was K, actually,
yeah.

1095
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,080
You know what?
Because.

1096
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200
You're trying to substitute it
for the actual language.

1097
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,440
Yeah.
Oh, so it's not because Daniel's

1098
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,440
a huge misogynist.
No, it's because you thought you

1099
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,960
would be able to speak the
language.

1100
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:19,080
Look, I studied Romance
languages and I can read

1101
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,960
instructions, say in Italian.
So like.

1102
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,840
Reading.
Could be useful.

1103
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,880
I've heard from some Chinese
folks that they see a lot of

1104
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,800
Western languages as just
different dialects of Latin.

1105
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,120
You know, all the Romance
languages are just different

1106
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,720
dialects.
Like people say there are a

1107
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,360
bunch of different Chinese
dialects.

1108
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,440
And over here we're just like,
no, they're separate languages.

1109
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,800
Our language is like, no, maybe
they're just all dialects.

1110
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:50,080
You don't have to ask the
Chinese folk to, you know, tell

1111
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:56,120
you that any linguist worse,
worse there, you know, salt can

1112
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,240
tell you that.
My point is the distinction of

1113
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,080
what's a dialect versus a
separate language.

1114
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,840
That's all I'm saying.
Yes, obviously they're all

1115
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,880
related to to Latin anyway.
We don't need to get.

1116
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,840
Into JB has a lot of points in
electrical repair and mechanical

1117
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,920
repair and these have come up
exactly now so.

1118
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,120
There was once in Malta where it
might have been handy, but we

1119
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,200
didn't have the right people
there.

1120
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,560
That is true.
That is true.

1121
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,280
So.
So that gets my.

1122
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,360
Value messing with the new
electricity at Donovan's right.

1123
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,640
Yeah, 'cause you never actually
ended up breaking into Donovan's

1124
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,600
house.
Yeah, right.

1125
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,840
And I wasn't current back then.
Yeah, I didn't know all that

1126
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,640
stuff.
OK.

1127
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:48,520
I think I know how to tie like 3
different kinds of sailor's

1128
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:52,320
knots.
That's good.

1129
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,640
That's a good Kurds fact.
I mean, that is a super useful

1130
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,280
skill in the right
circumstances.

1131
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,000
Especially with JB as your
boyfriend.

1132
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,400
OK, good night, everybody.
That's all for the show.

1133
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,360
Nothing.
Wrong with.

1134
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,360
Little ship by.
Sandy, the Castula Wars

1135
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Kickstarter was not fulfilled
correctly.

1136
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,400
We have so thoroughly
established that JP is a freak

1137
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,640
at this point.
It's true.

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It's true.
That is the one thing in eternal

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life that we know absolutely is
true.

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The ball gag.
It was the ball gag actually I

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01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,000
think.
Anyway.

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Kearns might be pretty vanilla
so.

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That is a OK.
With that.

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:44,960
Everyone useless, but I boy am I
about to be surprised.

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Hey, thanks.
For listening to Daniel's Dread

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01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:53,000
Tales, perhaps our loosest
episode we have ever done.

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,080
Will this be listenable?
I hope so, because you just

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,240
listened to it.
If you got this far into it,

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01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,400
thanks for listening everybody.
We'll.

1150
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,440
See you in two weeks.
Yeah, we'll see y'all in two

1151
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,640
weeks.
Or at least you'll hear us.

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01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,280
I've never seen you.
I don't have webcams in your

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,480
house.
Stay dreadful.

1154
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,880
Bye.
That's how we sign off now.

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,560
Thanks for listening.
Daniel is our GM, Renee plays

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01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,000
Franklin Kearns, Damian plays
Donovan Smalls, Nathan plays JB

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,560
Falk, and Russell plays Colin
King, in addition to mixing,

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,120
mastering and music in the
episode.

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01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Our album art is by Trinity the
Tea Time Witch, and our main

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,760
theme is by Claire LW.
We have a Patreon at

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,920
patreon.com/dreadtails and we do
a live stream the last Sunday of

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01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,920
the month.
You can find links to these and

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01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,600
other things on the link tree in
the show notes.

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01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,880
Again, thanks for listening and
until next time.

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,400
Sandy, your Cthulhu Wars
Kickstarter was not fulfilled

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01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,040
correctly.