Eternal Lies - Ethiopia Wrap Up

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But I I made it a list so I can
check things off as I.

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Smart, smart.
Also, the staff questions chat.

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OK, why did we start talking
about Lube in here?

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You know what?
Actually, yeah, let's use your

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list.
I mean, I'm almost.

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Down to talking about Lube.
Hey, why not talk about?

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There's nothing wrong with
talking.

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About I'm like, OK, I'm not
opposed to Lube to be clean.

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I'm not anti Lube.
I just don't know how relevant

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it is to the discussion that
we're going to be having right

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now.
Maybe we'll be very relevant.

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Well, I mean, who knows where
conversations may go?

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Danielle's Lube tails.
We are fighting a sex cult.

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So do they use Nectar as Lube?
Yeah, I, I, I don't know, yo,

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I've not thought about using
Nectar as Lube.

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And that's not one that I've
thought about get on my level

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like, is it?
Liquid liquid or is it like

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slippery like what's the
viscosity?

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You know, I truly have not
thought about the viscosity of

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it as much as I should have.
So thank you for this.

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I will consider this.
Is this the show?

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Have we started?
Is this the?

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Absolutely.
The thing, Well, yeah, I mean,

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I, I, I'm recording on my end
and I know Craig's recording so.

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I'm not sure if this gets
attached to the end or if this

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is literally how the episode
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I like to think that this is how
we start because it's on brand

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for us.
Anyway.

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Hi everyone.
We're Daniel Shred Tails.

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That's Daniel.
Daniel over there?

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No, he's over there.
Depending on where we are, you

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might be pointing different
directions, yeah.

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But yeah, to me, he's like up
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And that's Dan and that's
Russell and Renee and I'm

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Nathan.
We run a show about about

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tabletop RPGs.
And loop.

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And loop sometimes I guess.
Now I get truly I'm trying to

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think if Lube has come up on the
show.

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Ha, he said.
Come.

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I think calm has come up.
At.

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Least once.
Fought a sex cult many times and

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even before that we're all
perverts.

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It's fine I've.
Made at least a couple jokes

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about oral history.
I got laid at least twice, three

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times if you count the time when
I was gay with myself.

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So this is, this is probably
completely inaccessible to new

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listeners, but what else is new?
Yeah, we're right now we're

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doing AQ and a session
reflecting on partially our last

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sort of Arc, our most recent arc
of the Eternal Lies campaign,

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which is accelerating towards a
conclusion, I swear, and also

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answering so any other questions
on our Discord, please check out

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our Discord.
It should be LinkedIn, the show

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notes.
And yeah, let's get started.

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It's just like a normal episode
of the podcast, except we're not

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playing a role-playing game and
you can see our faces.

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Yeah, I actually.
Have a video camera working this

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time so.
Yeah, it's working this time, so

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there.
You go Nathan in motion.

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Yeah, I want to do it.
I have not really seen you much.

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So there we go.
There's there's a Nathan.

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Yeah, here I am.
I can finally take a break from

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being the eye candy now that we
have Nathan.

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Yes.
Thank you.

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And I'm a skeleton.
And Russell's a skeleton.

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I'm not the eye candy, I'm an
old man anyway, so.

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Agree to disagree.
That hurts.

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Anyway, I think I'm the old
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I believe that may be the case,
yes, but.

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None of you are allowed to
pretend that you're not

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attractive.
That's banned.

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You're all good looking people.
I mean, yeah, no, I, I, I can't

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say that I'm not a bad looking
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I So what's the first question?
If you had to choose one and

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only one's, a build up system
that has appeared before on the

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show to be able to play for the
rest of your life.

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What and why?
And this is a round Table 1.

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OK.
Man, OK, what's?

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Going on my head.
We were all kaijus.

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Monster Force Terra.
Yeah, that.

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Monster Force Terra was fun.
It was but God.

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Is my head.
I was thinking recently that I'd

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like to play Slayers again.
That was a fun one.

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Oh yeah, that was a goofy one.
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But if I only had to if I was
like trapped in one system

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forever.
Is it cheating to say Trail of

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Cthulhu because Gumshoe is so
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Gumshoe is a good system.
I quite like Gumshoe.

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Yeah, I I love mysteries, always
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And so, like, gun to my head,
I'm going to say Gumshoe, but

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you know, it's not an easy
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Out of what we played, I'm
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the week.
A classic classic.

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For similar reasons, because it
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the framework that's provided
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If you want to play superheroes,
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If you want to play
supernatural, you can.

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There's a supernatural TTRPG by
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I believe it.
Yeah.

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No, I think there's.
Still be ATV.

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Show adaptations.
You know, the average tabletop

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RPG that's like all about
heists.

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It's very good.
Yeah, I've always wanted to

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check that out.
So it's good.

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Well, always when I got into
leverage, I realized about it

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and then I wanted to check it
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You ever read the the DND comic
The Leverage Guy wrote?

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They go on heists.
Basically I have read AD and D

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comic.
It was many moons ago, during

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the years of 4 E like early 4.
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OK, no, that's let's hold on,
hold on.

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Let's not argue about editions.
I've I you got to but.

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The recent release of You Were.
Saying 4th edition is catching

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strays and I will not stand for
that, but we don't need to.

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We don't need to go into it
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OK, D&D editions, Star Trek,
Best Final Fantasy game.

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Am I missing any other topics
that are bad?

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Christmas.
Christmas, Christmas, Christmas

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and Christmas music.
That one hasn't come up on the

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show proper, but it did come up.
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you hate Christmas.
You are all a bunch of fun.

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I hate Mariah Carey.
Humbug see you know what you

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know how that story ends by the
way that's what that story is

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about.
So we should sit there who loves

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Christmas, the candle tub
rolling game that I would play

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to get us back on topic.
You know what I I quite like

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trail Cthulhu.
I like the gumshoe system.

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You know what, I would probably
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only play 1 system.
But dear God do I love unknown

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Arby's.
I love the and that that guy

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writes.
I like all the fan created stuff

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for that system.
I know we haven't done a ton of

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it.
In fact we had like an episode

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that we lost where we were
trying to do some more Unknown

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Armies and it didn't quite
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But I quite like Unknown Armies.
Yeah, big fan.

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Yeah.
I would like I think my my three

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choice.
Yeah, we should.

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Return something Monster of the
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#3 for me.
That one action was a really fun

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system.
I would like to do more in that

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for.
Sure.

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I am surprised, though pleased
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Pathfinder because we didn't
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I considered it but like.
Thing is, I've.

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Played a lot of Pathfinder in my
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Like it.
For me, it's, it's foundational

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in a way that's like, yeah, you
know, Pathfinder counts like.

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What were you saying?
They're dating.

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Pathfinder.
Like I, like I said, I, I would

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have, I, I considered it, but at
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something that was a little bit
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Because like, while Pathfinder
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edition, I don't know, I, I, I
like the fact that with the

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monster of the week, if you have
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the GM that's given up a little
bit, you can do some crazy shit.

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I quite like all the Powered by
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It's it's very good.
I think if I ever were to play a

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for example, if I ever play a
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would probably want to play
dungeon World, which I think is

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a very good like, you know,
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You know, it's by well, one of
the guys is like cancelled, but

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it's a good system.
Shades Will Tour is really good

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at a couple less so.
I'm I'm unfamiliar.

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I'll find out later I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, he didn't like murder
anybody, but like, it's.

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But the.
Bars that low.

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Unfortunately, yes.
God, I guess.

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Yeah.
So I think that answers the

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question, did we get it from
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I think we did.
I believe so.

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Yeah, yeah.
All right, next question, look

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into Dungeon World with the.
Dungeon World it, sorry.

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Sorry.
With the recent World Severe

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Witch Master discussion episode,
is there a plan to make more

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discussion based episodes?
Do you have a few done and they

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are such a treat?
We were keeping them for special

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occasions.
The bit for the first one, the

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the Godzilla 1, it came out on
April 1st and the bit was that

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we were pretending was an
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were already doing that and we
pretended we've done a bunch of

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Godzilla reviews.
I don't know how much that bit

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carried over into the actual
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the thing that I thought was
very funny to pretend that we

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were a podcast that was
completely different for April

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Fools.
And then then that's why this

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year instead for April Fool's we
did like that weird feedback

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episode where we played the
Russian.

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It never that was.
A weird one.

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Yeah, that.
Was I I did have a great time

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playing like everybody getting
to be judious version of

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themselves for for an hour or
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Yes, but in terms of the the
actual movie stuff, the other

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one was like, hey, let's have a
Halloween special and we could

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put that out.
So I don't know if there's any

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particular at the moment.
They were just sort of like

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coinciding with like holidays,
like we could try to do

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something.
Haven't really considered it

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yet, yeah.
I wouldn't be opposed.

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I have a lot of fun with them,
so yeah.

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We just have to have like, you
know, we have to find the time

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to do them.
And like, you know, I'd like to

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finish Eternal Lies someday.
This is my fault for making it

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too long.
He will.

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Probably be done with Eternal
Eyes by January, just to let our

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audience know we'll be done
recording it by January.

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Yeah.
As for when, how that shakes

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out?
Yeah, I I I'm liking it, but I'm

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realizing that like my initial
pitch for the show was one shots

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and now I've created a
nightmare.

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Yeah, yeah, the idea was
anthology, but yeah, before they

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go to a person.
I, I am am going to just put

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this out there.
Eternal life is not running too

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long.
No, it's fine.

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Has been a a great ride.
And I say this had a lot of fun.

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Being the person who is most
recently, you know, lost the

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character.
We'll see if we can't lose some

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more, we'll I think.
Any other thoughts on watching

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movies though?
Any other thoughts on that?

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I also had not thought of it.
Yeah, basically I figured, you

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know, we're a horror podcast.
It makes sense to put a bounce

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on.
Halloween.

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Yeah, that is as much thought of
as I put into it.

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Yes.
You know, I'd be down to

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occasionally do something like
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Like it's, it's a fun time and
it's something that like it, it,

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it portrays a different, like
it, it lets our audience kind of

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know more about us.
Yeah, it's definitely.

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We're not in character.
Yeah, I just, I just had a

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thought for one of those
specials.

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I could maybe show you guys one
of the movies that I grew up on.

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Oh, what did that?
What?

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Would be interesting to your
reactions.

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I I assume you mean something
like in Russian, yeah or Yeah,

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OK.
Zabdur.

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Zabdur.
Whichever.

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Well, yeah, yeah, obviously like
I don't think we would just, I

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mean, I suppose we could watch
it with no idea what's going on

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outside of the visuals, but it's
probably better to to have some

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sort of translation unless you
just want to live translate it

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for us.
But that's that sounds like a.

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I heard spicy in there.
I know Asvadania and vodka.

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I don't.
I don't know too many special.

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Words I.
Duck.

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As as someone who was as someone
who was almost a film major, a

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fact I am both proud of and
haunted by.

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I'm very down for seeing movies
that are important to my friends

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and foreign or and interesting.
So I'm very game.

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We should.
We probably don't need to plan

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this on this episode right now.
But I think.

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People, but this is this is
something we will return to.

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But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, should I continue?

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Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.

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All right, are they random?
Are there any other systems

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y'all are excited to play or
feature on the podcast?

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I keep trying to get the boys to
play DND.

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No.
Not.

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There.
There's 1000 podcasts doing DND

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so.
It's because it's good I'm.

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Sorry Renee.
Game that I want to feature on

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the podcast.
I'm like, try to look over at my

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shelf.
Oh, what was that?

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I do still want to do Lancer at
some point, but it's it's a

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harder sell for an audio medium,
you know?

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Yeah, it's very gritty.
Very, very gritty, yeah.

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It's very tactical.
I know Friends at the Table had

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some trouble when they tried to
do a podcast episode for it just

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because it's so on the the grid,
but mechs are cool.

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I'd have to.
But figure out the horror

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element of it, I guess.
The mechs could fight horrible

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things, That's that's fine.
See, here's the thing mechs are

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prime for like war related
horror.

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Like or regarding
industrialization, war and

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dehumanization.
No.

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Wow, cool robot.
Let me just throw this out

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there.
The ghost in the machine.

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Spooky.
The The big walking robots get

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taken over by AI Topical.
Yeah, Lancer and also maybe

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fabulous Ultima would be pretty
fun to do with you guys.

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I haven't wanted to play
fabulous Ultima.

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I really don't know how much
that lends itself to a horror

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setting though, but that would.
Rule.

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That's the thing, we make the
setting so like.

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I know, I know well the.
Gameplay.

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Panics lead into it.
Yeah, the gameplay is very

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intentionally reminiscent of
classic JRPGS, and it's hard to

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do horror in 16, but.
Yeah.

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Blades, so to speak.
Yeah, but.

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Blades in the are you are you
saying blades in the dark?

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Oh, my screen is frozen.
Oh, screen is frozen, is it?

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If you guys are all there still,
we're fine, but.

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Yeah, we're still here.
OK, I can.

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Hear and see you.
You can hear and see me.

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OK, cool.
Yeah, yeah, you're still alive.

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OK, I'm back.
OK, that was odd.

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Yeah, I'm always down to A2
Blades in the Dark.

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Big fan of it.
We've done it a couple times for

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streams, but never as a main
feed episode.

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Yeah.
It's a good time, yeah.

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Also, like unknown homies.
Like I say, I would love to

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really dive into that at some
point.

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Yeah, yeah, we had a like, I
have like a mini campaign idea

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that again, we like we recorded
one episode of it and kind of

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had a, it sort of fell apart,
but we'll give it another shot

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one of these days, so.
On the.

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But it fell apart because of
scheduling, to be clear, not

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because it was a bad episode, it
just.

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Yeah.
To be clear, yeah.

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Briefly on the subject of Blades
in the Dark, there is a that

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just Kickstart launched a Forged
in the dark, Ghost in the Shell

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tabletop RPG.
And if you want to do cyberpunk

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or sci-fi horror, let me know
because I might.

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I'm genuinely considering
backing it.

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One of the reasons that I'd like
to, you know, and the current

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campaign is I can mess around
with different genres of music.

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Yeah.
Eiger Punk is definitely what I

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want to.
Well, yes.

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I have been the other like
random system I've been thinking

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about.
I wanted to play Night Witches.

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I think we could make that work.
Horary that is.

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Have you guys heard of Night
Witches?

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It's by I have not.
It's by Jason Morningstar,

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designer of Fiasco and you play
as the Night Witches from World

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War 2.
The the Russian, the pilots.

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Female pilots, yes.
Nice.

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And, and it's like broken into
two parts, like you have to fly

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around and shoot people.
We can make maybe the people

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that you're shooting.
Well, I mean, Nazis are

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horrible, but we could also, you
know, have something else to

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shoot and then.
Shooting Nazis.

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There's a lot of.
Horror in Nazis?

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That's a pretty scary thing
these days, unfortunately.

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Nazis Zombies is a yeah, that's
a pretty reliable well to pull

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from.
And then during the day you have

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to avoid interrogation by the
NKVD and stuff.

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So that's also fun.
So that's something I've been

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thinking about also.
We should just play Fiasco

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sometime.
I'm here's the name.

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I'm not sure I've ever played
it.

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It's very, very improv.
It's.

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Yeah, it's.
Less of a Yeah, it's more of a

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bunch of improv props of a.
Little bit.

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Ever seen a Coen brothers movie?
Probably, yeah.

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It's like it's a game designed
to emulate the feel of like

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something like Fargo or Blood
Symbol where just like somebody

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gets a stupid idea and every
scene the IT gets worse and

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worse.
That just sounds like I play

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every game.
So it's yes, it will fit.

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Right into Fiat, no.
The other one, I'd love to do

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some Ponce, but we can't really
do it because we're all

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scattered to the winds is 10
Candles, which is the one we

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play the role-playing game we
all have.

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Like you have some candles lit
and you have all the lights off

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except for that.
I know we could do a version of

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that online, but it wouldn't
quite be the same.

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It wouldn't quite be the same,
but there are ways that we could

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probably do it.
I'm pretty sure.

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I don't know how well Nathan
would be able to do with this,

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but I'm pretty sure Tabletop
Simulator probably has something

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that we'd be able to do it in I.
Definitely have to use the

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bigger laptop for it, that's for
sure.

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The BTT that I use, I could set
something up and just like one

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person is the DM and then we do
it that way.

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But yeah.
It's, I mean, it's doable.

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I I understand that it's doable.
Maybe we could do it someday.

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But like the reason that it
works is because it's dark and

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it's sitting at our computer
screens.

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It's less dark and spooky.
Yeah, that's the but might

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slowly go out and you, you know,
all that stuff, you know, also

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like the there's other system
I'd love to do that just don't

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work for a podcast.
Like what is it?

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Alice is gone.
Alice is Alice is missing, which

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is the one that takes place
entirely through people texting

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each other.
That one's that one's pretty

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cool too.
Interesting.

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Yeah, anyway, systems.
The reason I started this

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podcast is I wanted to play more
systems.

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And instead I've played a lot of
the systems that I already know

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because I like them so much.
We got to do more, ain't?

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That just the way of the fucking
world, man.

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Yeah.
So that that's actually the

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perfect segue to my picks for
things I'd like to run on the

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channel.
I have 4 actually, one of which

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we're going to be running at the
end of this month on stream.

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It's Hungry Knolls Eat the Rich.
It's like a Zion TTRPG that I

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backed on Kickstarter.
It's less horary and more eat

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the rich I guess.
I feel like that's horror for

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the rich, yeah.
Yeah, it's horror for some

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people.
Usually we're the recipients of

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the horror, then this one will
be the providers.

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I love hers.
Is that like a spin off of

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Cobolb's Ain't My Baby or is
that completely different?

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I that's a very good question.
I've never heard of Cobolb's

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Ain't my Baby.
With all the love, that's a

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different, that's a conversation
talking about I.

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Never mind, forget I said
anything.

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But yeah, so that one's going to
be fun to do.

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That one's one that I would like
to at some point maybe do like a

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small miniseries for as like
mainline episodes, but that's

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future stuff.
Another one I would like to do

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again and have a successful
episode 4 is Orbiters Local 519.

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Oh yeah.
Yes, space horror has a lot of

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legs.
Yeah, yeah.

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Both figuratively and sometimes
literally.

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Mothership.
Yeah, mothership is fun.

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And then the other one that I
would like to do that I actually

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have a physical book for is
Stoneburn.

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Now this one is basically
dwarves in space versus demons.

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All right then.
That's like the solid elevator

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pitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That that is the the basic
premise.

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Like the the party is a bunch of
dwarves that have inherited an

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asteroid and you have to mine it
and clear it of demons.

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I thought that was a solo game.
Nope, it is not.

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Maybe I'm thinking of another
one.

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Possibly, and then the.
Other game with dwarves in space

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where they fight demons, right?
It's fine, don't worry about it.

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Another one that I would like to
do is Shadowrun enter.

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I wanted to do a small streamed
game on my twitch channel about

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for that but I wasn't able to
get enough people but it's

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basically but what if with
magic.

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I'm counting out my D sixes for
if we play Shadowrun I'm going

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to need about 50 of them.
You know.

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Wild to me.
I actually have not played

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anarchy.
I think Anarchy has less ice in

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it, I believe.
Yeah, Anarchy is basically the

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simplified system.
It's a lot more narrative.

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It's Catalyst Games Labs version
of Shadow Run.

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Basically they it's called the
cue system.

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It's it's actually really,
really cool because it's a lot

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more narrative and collaborative
than most other systems.

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It's like basically if we were
playing it right now is like a

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brief synopsis, Daniel.
If it was returned to do

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something, you set the scene.
If you want a person to be

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there, they're there.
Describe it.

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And then the next person.
Yeah.

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And then the next person in line
basically builds on that.

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And essentially the GM is just
there to say, OK, you roll dice

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now gotcha.
Type deal.

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Like it's, it's, it's a really
nice, nice and streamlined

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system with the right group of
people.

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I'm realizing, Renee, we were
mean to you when you said

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Duchess and Dragons.
Although I do stand by by not

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wanting to play D&D on this
thing.

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But is there anything, any kind
of stuff you would like to do on

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the show?
I don't know.

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I don't know if there's anything
that you you thought of or

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anything like that or even just
sort of a kind of story.

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If it's not a, it's not a
system.

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Same with you, Russell.
I have Mark Borg just kicking

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around.
Oh yeah.

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That's what I've wanted to try.
I've heard things about it.

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Same.
That.

453
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Said That said, I'm good at
running D&D, but I don't have a

454
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560
lot of trust in my abilities to
run anything else.

455
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800
So.
I mean, is there a system you

456
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,320
would make perfect lay if
somebody else was running it?

457
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,000
I know everybody.
That's actually a really good

458
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,200
way of phrasing.
Think about that.

459
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,160
Well, again, planning could be
done in a separate sort of

460
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,400
argument, but but Russell, did
you have anything else?

461
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280
I know.
Any other ideas?

462
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Few more questions.
Yeah, Oh yeah.

463
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Why don't we have more questions
too?

464
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,000
We could probably move on from
this topic that we've been

465
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,800
talking about for a while.
Yeah, I'd mentioned, oh, maybe I

466
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,600
hadn't mentioned anything.
That was the last question.

467
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,800
Yeah, you mentioned some stuff
that we played before that you

468
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,200
want to do again, but is there
anything we need?

469
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,720
Yeah, Mark Berg, absolutely
interested in, I don't know, a

470
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:42,120
lot of systems before I've
actually played them, but going

471
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,920
to see about picking up some
real indie stuff shortly, yeah.

472
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Cool, yeah.
My legs got uncomfortable and I

473
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280
fucked up my camera.
This is why I don't.

474
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,320
Oh, no.
All right, the next question.

475
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920
This was from Moirath, who can't
remember if they've asked the

476
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,640
group or not.
What are your favorite mythos,

477
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:13,280
entities, or creatures?
There's one I really like that

478
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,240
is the identity of the liar, but
I can't tell you that one.

479
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600
I guess Dan is banned from
answering this question.

480
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280
It's Shrek, isn't it?
I mean.

481
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,000
Now, I guess I can't legally say
Herbert W counts as a mythos

482
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,320
entity, but.
He's a, he's a Mythos adjacent.

483
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000
It's fine, yeah.
Yeah, I.

484
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:49,400
He's a mythos.
But like if if I have to choose

485
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,960
an actual entity it is hard to
go wrong with the classic OG big

486
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,920
guy squid face.
Who doesn't love to do little?

487
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,960
Come on man.
I mean, Dagon, yes.

488
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,680
I named my cat Kasulu.
Yeah, yeah, and it's very cute.

489
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,640
I'm not super familiar with the
actual differences between the

490
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,240
Lovecraft gods, but I'm I'm
always a fan of a shoggoth.

491
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Yeah, I was going to say
shoggoths are fine.

492
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,840
I I mean, I truly think my
favorite Lovecraft story is At

493
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,520
the Mountains of Madness with
hazardous shoggoths in it.

494
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,080
So that was that was a good one.
Yeah, I've listened to a fan

495
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,440
reading of that a few times.
She's.

496
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,160
Pretty drawn out.
I really like it.

497
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320
And then also says it's a great
story to fall asleep to.

498
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,400
And I'm like, you're not telling
people on it when you say that.

499
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840
Yeah, but she's not wrong for a
Horror Story.

500
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,640
She's absolutely right.
Like it like it is a good story

501
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,560
to like, chill out to.
Yeah, let me tell you, you

502
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,120
should be glad we're playing
Eternal Lies and not my

503
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440
elaborate sequel to At the
Mountains of Madness, which is

504
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,120
going to involve a lot of Arctic
expedition minutiae.

505
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Everybody would have loved that.
So people would have presented

506
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,200
to death rather than exploded to
death.

507
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Yes.
I'd find a way.

508
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:29,000
Yes, yeah, I think, and I will
say I'm a big fan of, and I say

509
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,760
this separately from Eternal
lies.

510
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,480
This is Do not read this as a
clue to Eternal lies.

511
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Say it.
Their lathatep I think is very

512
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,800
cool.
Yeah, I.

513
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,400
Think solid choice.
I think you know, spooky pharaoh

514
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,080
and also other things, but you
know I do.

515
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Yeah, I I do love the idea of an
Elder God who despite being as

516
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,760
alien as any other Lovecraftian
entity, does have like a human

517
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,520
personality and just really
loves to fuck with us.

518
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,040
Like has made it his mission
statement to have a great time

519
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,760
at our expense.
I I just really dig that first

520
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,720
story, which is just which
Lovecrats has said is just him

521
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,240
describing a dream he had and it
truly feels like a nightmare

522
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,680
when you read it.
I once when I was a substitute

523
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,480
teacher, I once just had time to
kill and it was Halloween.

524
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760
Like a teacher decided not to be
there on Halloween.

525
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,440
I had to be a substitute
teacher.

526
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,040
And I just like after we got
done with the day, the kids are

527
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920
still about to go balls like OK,
you're jerks.

528
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040
You got to sit down.
I'm a region their laugh

529
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,840
attempt.
It's culture, and that's not

530
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760
quite an.
Education at its finest, huh?

531
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Yeah, right, speed.
Running.

532
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,200
Traumatizing the children.
Yeah, but it was because there's

533
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,880
something like it's, you know,
there's nothing explicitly like

534
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120
anybody's getting murdered in it
or whatever.

535
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,080
But when you when you read that
with a spooky voice to to kids,

536
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,680
they, some of them will get into
it and some of them are on their

537
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,120
phones ignoring you, but you
know, whatever.

538
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,639
As long as they're being quiet.
Yeah, right.

539
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,000
That's all you want when you're
a substitute and the teacher

540
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,080
doesn't give you good plans.
All right.

541
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,320
Next question is what got you
interested in horror to begin

542
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,920
with?
It's one of the emotions, man.

543
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,199
Like it's one of the.
I am feeling the emotion of

544
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:38,199
horror.
I am horrified.

545
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,440
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.

546
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Well, I know this is a horror
podcast because Daniel wanted to

547
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,320
make a horror podcast.
Yeah, yeah, man, I mean in

548
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,800
particularly for tabletop RP GS,
I think horror is really cool.

549
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,760
I will say I don't think
tabletop RP GS are scary.

550
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,800
They you might be able to have
like one or two like sort of

551
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,160
moments, but generally the vibes
are scary, especially if I'm

552
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,640
running it but.
Especially if we're playing it.

553
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,800
Yes, but I think horror works
really well, especially for one

554
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,440
shots or short things because
you could play your character,

555
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:24,240
you know, like it's a rental
car, like just drive it, drive

556
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,000
or drive it like you just stole
it, like going wild.

557
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Because it's like take the big
risk, it's OK.

558
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,520
It's a horror thing.
You know, you're going to get

559
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,680
destroyed probably, so just go
for it.

560
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,400
It it encourages different sort
of attitudes that many times.

561
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,320
Now, admittedly there are people
who are still like, I got to

562
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,440
figure out how I'm going to
survive this horror scenario,

563
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600
which is also a fine way to do
it.

564
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,600
But a lot of times you play a
horror one shot, you're like,

565
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400
fucking go for it, man.
And people make bigger, Dumber

566
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,400
choices in a way that I think is
a lot more fun as opposed to

567
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,360
like, you know, you get people
down and you're playing a long

568
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,840
running like, you know, dragon
game campaign.

569
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,400
And people are like, OK, how do
I optimize my character?

570
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,720
How do I make sure I do this?
How do I I never take any.

571
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,200
I'm going to poke everything
with a 10 foot pole to make sure

572
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,840
it's like, that's so dull.
And in a game that was sort of a

573
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:25,640
the secret precursor to this, we
played an Alien RPG game once.

574
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Some of them, I don't think
Nathan was part of that.

575
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,640
I was not.
That was, But do you remember

576
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,440
that?
I mean, unsurprisingly, Russell

577
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,880
just sort of.
It was like, I'm gonna leave.

578
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,240
I'm gonna separate myself from
the group and go fix this

579
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,800
shuttle on my own.
And I'm like, oh, awesome.

580
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,440
And then of course, you got
fangoriously devoured by an

581
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
alien, and that's like.
Happened.

582
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,960
That's because Russell always
plays their characters like

583
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,320
they're.
Yeah, I was about to say.

584
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,600
I was a geek.
So I went looking for drugs and

585
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,320
I found a strange vile and I
drank the xenomorph.

586
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400
You're right, that is actually
what happened.

587
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,680
You did try to.
See the morph.

588
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,440
I was.
Getting so much worse, yes.

589
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,720
That you understand that.
So much worse, right, Russell?

590
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Middle That was the game that I
was the Wayland Utah very

591
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,960
stereotypical Wayland Utahni
representative.

592
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Yeah.
Also, at the end of it was the

593
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,920
only person to survive.
Yeah, well, you know, that's the

594
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
other thing about horror.
It's one of the few times you

595
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,720
can often get, and this isn't
always required, but at least in

596
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,320
terms of tabletop games, more
player conflict is often

597
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,320
happening with horror.
You could, you don't always want

598
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
to have that, but sometimes it
it works just fine.

599
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,040
So that's how I think I came to
like horror in tabletop games.

600
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:05,640
I never really played too much
horror games themselves until I

601
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,440
actually just like Unknown
Armies was the first sort of

602
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,280
horror tabletop game that I ever
played.

603
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,880
And the I, it was more weird
fiction than horror, to be

604
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,760
perfectly honest.
So there was horror elements to

605
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,240
it.
But then there I sort of kept

606
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,040
going there.
And of course, Call of Cthulhu

607
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,280
looms large over the tabletop
community.

608
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640
So, you know, definitely check
that out too.

609
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,080
Want to say what got me into
horror?

610
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Does it like horror?
I've always been aware of and in

611
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,520
so far as Godzilla counts as
horror, I've been a Godzilla fan

612
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,960
since I was four years old.
But it's so cute.

613
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,000
So for like what, 10 years?
10 years now.

614
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Come on.
Come on.

615
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,080
My birthday's coming up soon.
I'm feeling old, sorry, I

616
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:12,360
interrupted.
No, it's OK, but and this

617
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,560
podcast was more or less my
first experience with horror

618
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,560
tabletop RPGs.
I was never really a big fan of

619
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:26,400
horror until you know what it
was finding the YouTube channel

620
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,920
Dead meat.
It was they he They are most

621
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,600
well known for the pound.
Oh, those guys, yeah.

622
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:44,240
Those guys, yeah, like, but I
was like just getting into the

623
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:47,880
genre.
They presented horror in a easy

624
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,960
to digest way and also like, did
a lot to explain how it was made

625
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,840
and all the hard work that went
into it.

626
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,320
And that like, that helped.
That got me into it basically.

627
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,240
Yeah.
All right.

628
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,160
And I'll go next so.
What?

629
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,680
For, for me anyway, what got me
into horror as a genre is, well,

630
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,720
I've made no secret I'm, you
know, chronologically old.

631
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Inside I'm still a 20 year old.
No, but like, I remember the,

632
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:37,520
the days of like the 80s and 90s
horror movie and stuff like

633
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,320
that.
Like you're, you're, you know,

634
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:46,040
your, your Nightmare on Elm
Street, your Friday the 13th,

635
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:52,840
stuff like that.
Like, and as far as the genre

636
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,440
itself as a whole goes, I've
just kind of been chasing that

637
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:05,200
like, you know, trying to find
something in the genre to scare

638
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,880
me because like I haven't had a
horror movie scare me since one

639
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
of the, I can't even remember
which one, one of the original

640
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,640
Nightmare on Elm Street, but
that was like when I was like 5

641
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:25,760
or 6.
As far as TTRPG genre, I like it

642
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:33,760
because there are a lot of story
that you can tell using horror

643
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:39,920
and TTRPG.
You can use it to explore

644
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,800
different things that you know
your stereotypical dragon game

645
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:53,800
or you know your your average
campaign of like Red or what

646
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,800
have you may not be able to
touch on as well.

647
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,640
But yeah, that's what I got for
it.

648
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,800
Fair enough, relate.
Do you got anything?

649
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:11,640
Yeah, I was actually just
looking at the exact name of

650
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,520
that book series because I know
exactly what got me into horror.

651
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
There was this book series came
out in the same year I was born.

652
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,600
It's called the Enchanted Worlds
or world.

653
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,240
Like my my grandmother got it
for me when I was a child and

654
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:34,280
that those books came to the
macabre and the spooky.

655
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Like there, there was a lot of
stories from a lot of the

656
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:48,080
world's cultures, like myths and
legends, like fairy tales, but

657
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840
in their primary form, you know
what I'm saying?

658
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,240
Like, like not the Disney
mermaid, but a Hans Chris

659
00:42:55,240 --> 00:43:00,200
Anderson mermaid where she turns
into sea foam in the end, you

660
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,400
know, And like not the Disney
Cinderella, but the original

661
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Cinderella where like where the
sisters try on the slippers and

662
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,400
the they're, they're like they
have to chop off their feet to

663
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,640
fit into the slippers, that sort
of stuff.

664
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Oh yeah, the original fairy
tales were dark, to put it.

665
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,400
Like, yes, and there's there's
there was the Iroquois legends,

666
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,880
sorry, Iroquois legends that
were pretty damn bloody.

667
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,800
And I I, I was just swallowing
those books and now it's like

668
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,640
hot.
That is fucking neat.

669
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:44,600
And I was maybe six or seven at
the time that when I was

670
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880
actually able to, you know, read
and comprehend those books.

671
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Oh, also, I watched The Fly when
I was about four.

672
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Oh boy.
I'd do it.

673
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,880
Yep, Yep, Yep.
A fun movie.

674
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Yeah, it was.
I had nightmares for ages.

675
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,800
No, that's fair, all right?
I got bad parenting gargoyles

676
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,960
and literally they gave me candy
on Halloween.

677
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,760
OK, incentivized to get into it.
Yeah, yeah.

678
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,920
All right.
I'd do it.

679
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Yeah, yeah.
Gargoyles was a great show.

680
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Yes, absolutely.
Big fan.

681
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,280
I remember like the first horror
movie I specifically remember

682
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,280
seeing was it, and I remember
seeing that before I was five

683
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:30,760
years old.
Oh.

684
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Boy.
Not a good movie for a small

685
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:42,920
child, yeah?
No, you guys remember who said

686
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Roger Rabbit?
Who?

687
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,320
Framed Roger Rabbit.
Roger Rabbit.

688
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Yeah, thank.
You.

689
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,240
Yeah, I I wasn't sure.
I I know the translated title,

690
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:55,080
but like, not the original one.
Do you remember that moment when

691
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,800
they lower the shoe in the VAT
of Sarah?

692
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Oh yeah, Judge Tube and the
shoe.

693
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,440
Yeah.
Yeah.

694
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
And then where he where where
the judge is run over by a

695
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,960
steamroller and he like gets up
that I I can still see it in

696
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,560
front of my eyes.
That was so awesome.

697
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Stories from that movie.
Yeah.

698
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,680
But but like, no.
That was so good though, yeah.

699
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,880
Oh, it was a great movie.
Like they that that was.

700
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Yeah, they more movies like that
need to be made.

701
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Just just going to throw that
out there.

702
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Playable protagonist.
Put some of us.

703
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,280
Yeah, you're a Valiant and I'm
Roger, right?

704
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:46,080
No other way around.
All right?

705
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:52,160
Anyway, next question, If you
could make any TTRPGA video

706
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
game, what would it be?
It's already made Boulders Gate

707
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,560
3.
No, that's fair.

708
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Can't argue with that.
I would love to see Blades in

709
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,800
the Dark in a realized visual
way.

710
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,080
It's a real neat world.
Sorry, I interrupted.

711
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,480
Isn't there a game that's like a
lot like Blaze in the dark?

712
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,200
You showed me.
Takes inspiration from several

713
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,120
things like Dishonored.
And dishonored.

714
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Yeah, dishonored.
You've got to be dishonored,

715
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,920
right?
Yeah.

716
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,560
I think I tried it once in the
before 4.

717
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:35,720
Possible, yeah.
I would love No, that's stupid.

718
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:40,160
Never mind somebody else, No.
No, no.

719
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,600
You started.
OK.

720
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,200
All right.
Our show, we're allowed to be

721
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,320
stupid.
Exactly.

722
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,400
OK, so The thing is, the world
needs more Kaiju games.

723
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,360
Yes.
No, absolutely.

724
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:03,320
So like Monster Force Terra, I'm
just like.

725
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,960
But The thing is that.
Rampage.

726
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,000
Yes.
That said, it's not that there

727
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,960
aren't Kaiju games out there.
So like I was thinking myself,

728
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:20,280
no we don't like their generic
Kaiju games exist.

729
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,480
Gigabash exists and it actually
like is cool enough to have DLC

730
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:35,720
for the official properties.
So at the same time what?

731
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,960
Is that one of those brain rod
games where you play as a

732
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,040
tsunami wave and you're supposed
to like destroy buildings and

733
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,600
shit?
No.

734
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,360
No, you play as Kaiju.
Oh, OK.

735
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,240
You play as Kaiju, you find out
the Kaiju.

736
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,040
OK, I think the world just needs
more giant monster games in

737
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:57,520
general.
And I really like the our stream

738
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:04,000
when Russell and I were like
sort of a family and Danielle

739
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,360
was our idiot son.
I love the dynamic.

740
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,320
Hey, which one?
The one we played during our 24

741
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,680
hour stream.
We played a lot of stuff there.

742
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,040
Yeah, well.
We play most.

743
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Are you saying that that are
you?

744
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,000
Is that how you would
characterize our Kaiju battle?

745
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,640
That I was the idiot son.
Yes, of course.

746
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:27,840
OK.
I have two that I would love to

747
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:35,760
see as a Game. 1 is not quite
this one, but my favorite sort

748
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,120
of unreleased game that I think
about is Obsidian was working on

749
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,160
an Alien RPG.
They got quite a ways into it.

750
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,640
Then the funding got cancelled
they they ended up doing

751
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,080
something else.
I love Obsidian's work most of

752
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,520
the time, but an asterisk next
to that.

753
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,000
We don't need to get into all of
that, but I would have loved to

754
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,160
have seen an Alien RPG.
I love the world of Alien, but

755
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,200
it's all shooters man.
And like we could do we could do

756
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,200
it RPG in that system.
I think it'd be cool.

757
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
The other one is not horror
related.

758
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,800
It's a completely forgotten
tabletop RPG.

759
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,840
But I would love to play
Paranoia as a computer game.

760
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,360
Paranoia is very goofy.
The computer is your friend

761
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000
thing.
I believe they actually released

762
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,160
a Paranoia CRPGA couple years
back, then they refunded

763
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,000
everybody's money and delisted
it on Steam.

764
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,840
And I never played it.
It's bad, but it's sounding like

765
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,200
that's not the game to play.
But I would love to see that,

766
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,280
yeah.
Imagine a paranoid name in the

767
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:53,680
style of Disco Elysium.
Exactly like I'm seeing like it

768
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,400
would be a lot sillier than
disco, but you know, very much,

769
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,040
you know, based on that sort of
thing.

770
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,160
I I saw it on sale not too long
ago for like 2 bucks and after,

771
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,000
you know, doing my research I
know that maybe that's a little

772
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,400
too much.
Oh, is it?

773
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Is it listed again?
Oh it.

774
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,280
Is.
Back.

775
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,200
Oh, OK, I know it's delisted for
a little while.

776
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,920
Oh boy, I guess you know what
the monkeys fuck are old.

777
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,200
It did.
The game did come out OK, so I'd

778
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,560
like that.
Could do exist, but good.

779
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:36,800
Can I go backwards there?
I would like to play Mechanicus

780
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:44,680
as an RPGI, think as a GTRPG.
That was actually when I gave my

781
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,240
answer.
I was actually going to pose

782
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:52,600
that question well, so I would
like to see Shadow of the Demon

783
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:58,400
Lord.
With the rule like system, yeah,

784
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,720
like I.
Think that would be a really

785
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,840
nice dark fantasy RPG?
Yeah, now.

786
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:12,200
But with the population.
Yeah, now for the rest of you,

787
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,240
what is a video game that you
would like to see turned into a?

788
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,320
I don't know Ganicus and also
hell divers.

789
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,600
I think hell.
Divers would be interesting as

790
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,520
an RPG.
Yeah, you know what?

791
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,480
That I could see that being.
That I mean that's that's moving

792
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,760
into the paranoia direction of
like comedically everybody dying

793
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,920
sort of thing your.
Character sheet.

794
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,080
It's just the ship.
Yeah, I mean Paranoia.

795
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,280
Literally when you play that
game you have 6 copies of

796
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,520
yourself and when you die it's
fine because the replacement

797
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,240
drops in and then you place
them.

798
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:51,440
Which is literally what happens
in Hell Divers.

799
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,520
You learn stratagems as you
level up kind of deal.

800
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,280
Yeah.
So to to answer my own question,

801
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,680
then I'll turn this over to
everybody who hasn't had it.

802
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,800
It's one of two.
Either.

803
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,360
Final Fantasy.
I mean, which one, but yeah.

804
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,040
I can.
Well, you could basically do any

805
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,880
of them.
You for the most part, you'd

806
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,600
have to do them all as their own
books because the system's kind

807
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,960
of change, the magic system
changes between each game,

808
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,560
basically, or.
That said person.

809
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,480
I have a persona, It's not
officially licensed but I have a

810
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,680
Persona Tampa Top RPGI have so
many things there.

811
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,200
It's called Voidheart Symphony.
It is literally.

812
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,080
It's inspired very much by
Persona 5.

813
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:58,640
Yeah, there are a lot of games
inspired by both of those

814
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,040
things.
Yeah, there's one that I let me.

815
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,320
While you're thinking I'll
comment, there is an officially

816
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,720
licensed Shin Megami Tensei
tabletop RPG which Persona is a

817
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,440
spin off of.
I will also say it's not very

818
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,800
good.
It is.

819
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,520
It is too much a video game.
And it's like we have replicated

820
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,520
all of the parts of the battle
system of this JRPG and it's

821
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:34,080
like, look cool, but when I'm
sitting around a table, that's

822
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,000
not the thing I want to do.
You know, I it's, it's not quite

823
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,240
the same thing.
Yeah.

824
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:50,960
Damien, wait the chat for for
the call.

825
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,440
That is a game that I have been
meaning to play at some point.

826
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,440
Nathan has just posted it is
Fantasy TRPG.

827
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:07,000
Legend edition.
It is unofficial obviously, but

828
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,040
it that also means it's free and
I really dig character creation

829
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,720
in it and I've been meaning to
try it with someone at some

830
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:19,400
point so.
I will download that and I will.

831
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,120
It's worth looking into.
Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely

832
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:29,480
worth looking into As for me, a
video game that I would want

833
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,920
made into a tabletop RPG, Fire
Emblem.

834
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,640
I think you could do really well
with a Fire Emblem tabletop

835
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,360
game.
Interesting.

836
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Besides, somebody else already
said Persona, so.

837
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:53,320
All right.
Oh, if yeah, I I didn't answer

838
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,800
it like when the question was
posed, but I would have loved to

839
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,960
do more Star Trek stuff.
Oh.

840
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:00,000
Absolutely.
Yeah.

841
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,600
That's fair.
That is completely fair, yeah.

842
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,560
Space contains infinite
unknowns, and what's more

843
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:14,880
horrifying than an unknown?
Yeah.

844
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,280
Do you want to keep going?
OK, this next question is

845
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,560
actually to do with the end of
the Ethiopia arc.

846
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,360
Oh, it's actually the the.
Game, the thing that we're

847
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,080
supposed to be.
Talking about.

848
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,480
Yeah, I saw this question
earlier and this is.

849
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,840
What was Damien's original plan
for the portal blanket?

850
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,760
Was the going insane to autocast
always the plan or did that

851
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,280
develop in the face of danger
and companions vote to do a

852
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:52,360
shotgun amputation?
So the original plan for the

853
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,680
blanket portal was to get
everybody to see like the the

854
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,240
originally the idea was, and we
actually even talked about it in

855
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:09,160
like one or two episodes prior
when I was originally laying it

856
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,840
out.
Essentially, it was going to

857
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:21,440
take us back to Iron Point to
the train, the going nuclear, or

858
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:27,800
rather the portal to space.
That's something that basically

859
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,560
happened when I realized that no
matter what I did, I was going

860
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:37,840
over the -12 or whatever it is,
stability cap.

861
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:44,840
And I was like, well, bucket, we
ball the the description for

862
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,200
when that happens is like, you
do something that's either

863
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,840
destructive to yourself or those
around you.

864
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,080
And I'm very sorry, Daniel, for
scaring you because I could hear

865
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,200
that, like, fear in your voice
when you're like, are you ending

866
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:05,800
my campaign?
It was quite the thing.

867
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Yes, like I said, like that's
kind of why I did it in a way I

868
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,200
did is that way it gave
everybody else a chance to be

869
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,240
like, OK, so am I going to try
and save him and potentially

870
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,080
sacrifice themselves as well?
Or.

871
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Get the fuck out of there.
Which thankfully everybody

872
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,520
decided to get the fuck out of
there.

873
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Yeah, I I kind of figured you
were gone the moment that shit

874
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,200
started.
Yeah.

875
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:40,080
I had hope.
Hope is the first step of a

876
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,520
disappointment.
Yeah, when will I ever learn?

877
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,200
I actually don't believe that.
I think Hope is pretty cool, but

878
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,320
I've.
Just said that OK, so are you

879
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,760
dealing?
Hope is not going to solve your

880
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,640
problems.
The people are just like well I

881
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,880
hope things get better, fuck
those people.

882
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,000
But you can hope and do shit.
You can do both of those things

883
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,760
and try to make the world a
better place.

884
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,480
And I know that makes me a
sucker to some people, but that

885
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,400
is something I believe.
Yeah.

886
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,000
And, and I know Renee is wanting
to throw up as I say these

887
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,080
things.
And I also like Christmas, damn

888
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,880
it.
What was your personal highlight

889
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,880
of this lake?
Yeah.

890
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,760
What did we, what did we think
about Ethiopia?

891
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Let's let's get into the the
story here.

892
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,920
Yeah, personal highlight for
Ethiopia.

893
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:39,280
I got to say this is more of
like maybe I should reflect on

894
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,480
this.
But we did see a guy tailing us

895
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,520
and immediately jump to tie him
up and torture him.

896
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:52,040
So that's.
OK, to be fair, up until that

897
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,920
point, what was what had our
track record been with people

898
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,040
tailing us?
5050.

899
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,400
A little bit.
It was closer to like I.

900
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,560
Think yeah it.
Was lower.

901
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,600
Up until that point, we'd only
had one person tailing us.

902
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,760
Oh, you did.
Not have I'll intent.

903
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:18,200
You're right, you're right.
And I even have my doubts about

904
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,040
that night of night of Malta.
I I think it's.

905
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,920
Evil.
I think it might not just not

906
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,680
be, you know, I.
Think it might.

907
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:35,600
Be disguised, yeah.
Yeah, I I would like that's a

908
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,400
personal highlight, perhaps for
the wrong reasons, but I did

909
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:46,760
really I enjoyed honestly a lot
of Ethiopia was fun.

910
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,880
I think the train shootout was
probably the most tense part.

911
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,880
I really thought that was very,
that was good stuff.

912
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Not the mutilated people
village.

913
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Oh, that was creepy as hell.
But didn't.

914
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,600
I didn't feel like we were in
mortal danger.

915
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,160
In the immediate moment I was
scared, but I didn't.

916
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,320
In the train, during the train
shootout, I was like, Oh my God,

917
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,400
is one of us going to dive right
now?

918
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,200
Yeah, I kind of thought one of
us was going to bite it there

919
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,920
myself it.
Was pretty close.

920
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,680
It was.
It really was.

921
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,160
Sometimes the most dangerous
thing is just people.

922
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,720
Yeah, I, I really, I do
appreciate about that this about

923
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,560
that, about this system is that
people with guns are very scary

924
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,200
and dangerous.
I mean, for the most part, the

925
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,640
biggest threats to us have been
people.

926
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,080
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not throwing a lot of

927
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,760
monsters at you.
Really the only supernatural

928
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,760
things that you have fought have
been mouthed so far.

929
01:00:55,080 --> 01:01:02,960
And actually this will come out
before this has happened, but

930
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,320
you guys are about to face, I
believe you guys are about to

931
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:12,080
face some supernatural creatures
when we next record our our

932
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,960
show.
Never bought them, but there

933
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,240
were gargoyles.
There were gargoyles and then

934
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,320
you were just like, well fuck
that, just and.

935
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,000
You blame my.
Gargoyles are friends.

936
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,320
They're protectors of the night,
yes.

937
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,160
Unless they're Cthulhu gargoyles
then.

938
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Yeah, Keith.
Yeah, I was gonna.

939
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,600
If you ran into the gargoyle, we
would have to drop the

940
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,440
gargoyles.
The.

941
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,720
I have been tempted on more than
one occasion.

942
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,440
We live again.
I can't.

943
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,480
I can't I.
Got to be honest, I never super

944
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280
got into that show.
I watched it on and off but I

945
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,960
was not a this is I'll be saying
I wasn't a fan but I just I it

946
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,400
never hit me so I've never gone
back and watched all of.

947
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:06,560
It it happens.
Yeah, other other Ethiopia

948
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,720
thingies.
Talking about the train thing

949
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,800
there, I think one of my
favorite moments for my

950
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,000
character specifically was, all
right, Reg Hopefully we got the

951
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,240
same blood.
Yup.

952
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,760
Forgot about that.
I fucking forgot about that.

953
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:33,480
And then like, I never really
get the sense that Daniel feels

954
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,120
like it's the GM versus the
players, except when I kept

955
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:45,800
succeeding my stability roles.
It is truly like, here's the

956
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:52,560
thing, I trust you.
And also a lot of it gets rolled

957
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,440
on roll 20.
So I see the roles.

958
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,240
All of it.
But.

959
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:04,640
It is.
It it's frustrating when from

960
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,360
from AGM perspective, it's
frustrating when, oh hey, I'm

961
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,200
going to do this cool thing.
Oh no, I'm not.

962
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:19,640
It's fine you're you're look, I
do not pick anyone to focus on

963
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,800
to try to kill.
Yeah, keep throwing yourself

964
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,600
that.
I know Renee may disagree,

965
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:35,160
perhaps fairly, however, I think
you're next, buddy.

966
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,920
Well, Colin thinks that too.
Yeah, that's kind of a thing.

967
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,960
Like Colin also thinks he's
next.

968
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,240
JB is going to live forever.
Your own down one arm.

969
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,680
I would kind of like to see JB
make it to the end with his

970
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,880
sanity mostly intact.
Wouldn't we?

971
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,960
That would.
Maybe be the biggest punchline

972
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,000
to me, specifically creating an
artist character in a Lovecraft

973
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,240
story.
I will say you are an artist

974
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,000
character who is terrified of
everything.

975
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,360
Now, how much of that is the
real character and how much of

976
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,440
that is the player?
I'm not.

977
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,720
I'm not really trying to go with
that, but you are making sure

978
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,040
that you are surviving It's.
All me.

979
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,440
Yeah, I remember Nathan saying
that he would like to sing that

980
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,400
JB is as cool as a cucumber.
Yeah.

981
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,000
You have to play them that way
for that to come through,

982
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,680
Nathan.
And it's fucking happening.

983
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:48,440
The thing is that I don't know,
my personality kind of always

984
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,560
overtakes the character that I
am playing.

985
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,720
Like I was sick to my stomach of
playing a God fearing Christian

986
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,880
man so.
That's why you lost your faith.

987
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:01,840
Spoilers.
Yeah, yeah, spoilers.

988
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,640
I don't think that's a spoiler.
The first episode of Mexico is

989
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,360
out.
Yeah, that episode is out.

990
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,760
Oh yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I lost my faith and I

991
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,240
started heavily self medicating.
Yes, yeah.

992
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:16,840
And I'm the.
I mean, I'm all.

993
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,880
For that, that, that's what I
was trying to, you know, that's

994
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,680
what I wanted to happen at the
end of Nathan's thing.

995
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,080
I wanted God to be evil.
That's clear.

996
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,040
That wasn't what happened at the
end of Monster of the Week, Low

997
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,360
Places.
But I just assumed God was going

998
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:32,800
to be evil that we were going to
have.

999
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,160
I've been playing too many
mainline SFT games.

1000
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Anyway, I'm playing too.
Many.

1001
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:53,640
Yeah, I, I really liked how you
guys got a little, I liked when

1002
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,920
you went to the village for the
first time.

1003
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,600
Like, I think everything about
the village is cool.

1004
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,520
I think it's a little upsetting.
I think we definitely need to

1005
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,520
make sure those trigger warnings
were on there.

1006
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:10,480
And I think that, you know, but
I think just the idea of a

1007
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,760
village where everybody is like
self mutilating is, is creepy.

1008
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,080
Yeah, I think that's that's
yeah, it's I think that's that

1009
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,280
was sort of the the spooky like
main thing.

1010
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:28,280
I mean, I also liked it was more
for like big plot reasons.

1011
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,560
I like that you met Ayers.
I know that you maybe felt that

1012
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,720
you got a lot of Nos from him.
To be fair, I don't know how

1013
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,080
many of the answers you got that
you were hoping you were going

1014
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:43,120
to get, but I feel like that was
good for my larger plot

1015
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,200
machinations.
I think that was good.

1016
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:51,120
Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't mind getting Nos

1017
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:57,080
from errors because like, even
just the meeting itself was nice

1018
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:02,160
and like atmospheric, you know?
And you guys were like, hey, are

1019
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,440
we going to have to kill this
guy?

1020
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,400
I almost did.
We almost did kill that guy.

1021
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,000
He'd be awkward.
Yeah.

1022
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Now.
We're going to have to kill this

1023
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,040
guy.
I was going to shoot him even if

1024
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:23,960
he said no, but then he said
that thing about even his small

1025
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,680
contribution to the battle
matters.

1026
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:32,520
Shit like that.
So yeah, fuck, he's my son.

1027
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,640
The little did he and Daniel
know that that line would save

1028
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:42,720
his life.
Maybe you'll come up again, who

1029
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,240
knows?
Or maybe he'll just live in the

1030
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,880
desert.
I like the Ayers meeting because

1031
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,360
it's for both myself and for
Reg.

1032
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,680
It tied up loose ends.
That was a thread that was

1033
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,160
dangling that just, it, it
bugged me.

1034
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,880
So I I just wanted to kind of
just just tie that away.

1035
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:13,360
My big thing the the the big
highlight for me is less main

1036
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:18,720
plot related and is more the
fact that we got to stick it to

1037
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,760
the fascists.
That was fun.

1038
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,439
That was fun.
Yeah.

1039
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:31,520
I I thoroughly enjoyed that.
I've always down for fucking

1040
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,520
over fascists in one way or
another.

1041
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:44,600
I I liked in general just how
much, how many things I was able

1042
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:52,319
to do here.
Like, if I'd known that I would

1043
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,920
have so much fun playing Brown,
I would have never gone with

1044
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,840
brains from my character in the
first place.

1045
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,160
Yeah, yeah, I like being strong
and powerful and, you know,

1046
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,040
muscle my way through shit.
For sure.

1047
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,160
Yeah, there is something really
nice about being able to

1048
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,680
actually just shoot your
problems, Yeah.

1049
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:17,640
Yeah.
Until you know you start losing

1050
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:23,600
your mind to bloodlust and turn
into a killing machine.

1051
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,319
Yeah, Lola.
No.

1052
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,760
Well, you know, just just shoot
Cthulhu.

1053
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,560
Why don't you just shoot him?
To be fair, Cthulhu's a chump.

1054
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,880
You just hit him with a boat and
that beats him.

1055
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,080
I was going to say they did just
throw a boat into him and he was

1056
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,439
like OK fine I'm going back to
bed, fuck y'all.

1057
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,399
I mean, to be fair if somebody.
Threw a black hole at the center

1058
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:52,600
of the universe, you know I.
Mean the stars weren't right.

1059
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:56,920
Damn, that's.
Just a bad morning.

1060
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,400
That's like one of those, like,
you know, fuck it, I'm going

1061
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,240
back to sleep for for another
millennia.

1062
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,000
You guys are assholes.
Yeah.

1063
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,000
I just got hit with SAD and is
like OK this is how my morning

1064
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,400
goes.
Should have stayed in bed.

1065
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,760
Fuck y'all.
I know the last time we had one

1066
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,360
of these, we had a conspiracy
board breakdown section.

1067
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,240
I know we sort of had some of
those conversations on Mike as

1068
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,240
the characters, but any other
like thoughts for the overall

1069
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,400
mystery?
I don't know if we've had any

1070
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,920
like, I mean, we've had some
stuff happen, but any other any

1071
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:37,040
other thoughts on that of the
the grander mystery of what's

1072
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,400
going on?
Any theories?

1073
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,200
Because we had some, I know
multiple times people have said

1074
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,440
like Cavalry is still alive.
He's definitely still alive.

1075
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,440
Do I mean what?
What do we think?

1076
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Yeah, he's not ours.
Well, we got to figure out

1077
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:56,640
what's going on with job.
What do?

1078
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,400
You mean what do you mean?
What's going on with job?

1079
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,640
Something's going on with Job.
Keaton was concerned during that

1080
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,440
phone call.
Kavaria cast a spell on him at

1081
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:14,440
the night of the fire.
He's got a big do, I think.

1082
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,160
OK, well said.
Yeah.

1083
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,760
See, I don't think Kavaria is
necessarily dead, but I don't

1084
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,240
think he's alive in a way that.
In the conventional.

1085
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,600
Sense we as humans would
consider alive.

1086
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:38,000
There's a lot of weird shit in
the Cthulhu mythos where you can

1087
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,720
just like leave your body and be
like peace.

1088
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,160
I'm a live over here now with
the ghouls or whatever.

1089
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,160
OK, there's also the fact as far
as I'm aware we haven't seen a

1090
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,880
picture of a cover yet.
That part of me wishes that Job

1091
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:59,520
just is a cover and he faked his
death, but that seems a little

1092
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,960
too niche.
You are right, you've not seen

1093
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,640
any pictures.
No, you you've had people point

1094
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,600
out.
No, I guess you haven't seen any

1095
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,280
pictures in the cover.
Room we haven't.

1096
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,280
Yeah.
Like I'm terrible, how are you?

1097
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,560
But The thing is, he was in
those pictures.

1098
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,560
He was in those orgy pictures.
Yeah, he.

1099
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,360
Was in the orgy pictures.
Yeah, he was.

1100
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,480
We just don't know what they
want.

1101
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,120
Yeah.
So maybe we have seen pictures

1102
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,920
of him, but we don't recognize
him with his clothes on.

1103
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,200
Yeah.
I mean, shave your head, grow a

1104
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,360
beard kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1105
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,200
I mean, I'd imagine I'd look
pretty differently.

1106
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,800
Yeah, if he grew a beard.
If he grew a beard and.

1107
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,880
Grew a beard, Definitely.
Yeah, yeah.

1108
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,880
I'd be surprised.
OK, I'm not saying that we have

1109
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,640
a bunch of grand theories.
I just last time we had one of

1110
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,680
these people started like
really, you know, Pepe, Sylvia

1111
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,160
this but.
Man, at at this point I just,

1112
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,440
I'm along for the ride because I
do not know what's happening and

1113
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:10,080
I am.
OK.

1114
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,560
Eager to find out?
Ditto.

1115
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,000
I have been trying to figure it
out.

1116
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,680
I have not yet succeeded.
I started having dreams where I

1117
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,640
was trying to solve it and I'm
slowly losing my mind.

1118
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,960
I think that's just because it's
so close already, so it can

1119
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,280
really only build up so much
steam.

1120
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:37,280
It happens.
If AI mean having a a game about

1121
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,040
lovecraft stuff slowly drive
someone mad is extremely

1122
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,680
lovecraft.
It very much is.

1123
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,840
It's kind of like that one issue
of the Doom Patrol, but that's a

1124
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,800
different conversation.
It's kind of like somebody out

1125
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,960
there knows what I'm.
Talking.

1126
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,560
About somebody out there knows
what I'm talking about the Doom

1127
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,680
Patrol, we'll just.
Let's just take a moment to

1128
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,960
appreciate the disparity between
It reminds me of that one

1129
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,280
episode of Doom Patrol, and it
reminds me of Jumanji.

1130
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,920
The issue of Doom Patrol, but
yes, that's.

1131
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,360
What I said.
Yeah, I I I was just going to

1132
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:18,320
say that it's about it's like
Jumanji but with Eldridge gods

1133
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:23,040
instead of what ostriches.
Oh, so original Jumanji.

1134
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,160
I'm with that.
Look at the one after.

1135
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:32,160
Oh yeah, Sierra.
That was that's.

1136
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,200
For some reason.
God I remember seeing the

1137
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,640
trailer for that.
Wow.

1138
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,760
Just anyway.
Jumanji again.

1139
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,960
Yeah, in space.
They did Jumanji in space and

1140
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,400
then they were like, people
don't like this.

1141
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,440
What if we did two more
Jumanjis, but the rock is there?

1142
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,640
Jack Black.
Yeah, Black, yes.

1143
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,840
I mean, Jack Black sold it for
me, so.

1144
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,040
I mean, he is very funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1145
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,160
I wish he had been.
Whatever, we don't need to talk

1146
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,640
about that.
I was going to get off on

1147
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,200
another tangent and I need to
control my fucking self.

1148
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:12,120
I need to be a good boy and not
get distracted about everything.

1149
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,800
This is what happens when we're
not trying to be professional.

1150
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,920
Yeah.
It's the.

1151
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,480
Thing is that I we go on these
tangents and I do it because you

1152
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:24,520
guys are my friends and I like
talking to you, yeah.

1153
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,720
It is fun, but we are being
recorded at the moment.

1154
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,240
But I mean, like, this is the
stuff that usually hits the

1155
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,720
editing floor.
Yeah, yeah.

1156
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:43,680
Oh yeah, there was 1 not too
long ago and I forgot where I

1157
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,040
was going with this.
Anyway, we record for about two

1158
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,360
hours.
When we sit down and record, we

1159
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:57,280
put out one hour long episodes.
There's a lot of tangents, yes.

1160
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:01,160
Yeah, I mean a little.
Bit at his bathroom breaks and

1161
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,600
stuff.
But yeah, there's there's a lot.

1162
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,440
By percentage, though, it's
mostly tangents that get cut.

1163
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,760
See.
I told my wife when I was

1164
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,040
sitting down to do this
recording, it's like, well, so

1165
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,360
we're not going to need to edit
anything out.

1166
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,040
So it's probably going to take
just like an hour.

1167
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,400
We've raised it for an hour
already and that's fine.

1168
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,760
Although I think we it feels
like we're winding down though.

1169
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,920
Is there any other questions
that we could think of?

1170
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,680
I think we're done with all the
questions from the the discord

1171
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,080
is that.
Correct.

1172
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,360
One more that was just for me.
And I was going to ask what

1173
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,160
about your character is most
like yourself?

1174
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,000
And I thought of that one, and
then I realized that it's my

1175
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:52,160
secret love for accounting.
They are very good at logistics.

1176
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,600
As you do.
The numbers make sense.

1177
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,760
What about my characters most
like myself?

1178
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,320
Unhealthy Open.
Mechanisms.

1179
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:14,400
I mean, that's a given.
I I made a writer, my personal

1180
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:17,160
hobby is writing.
I I feel like that's cheating.

1181
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,680
A little bit.
I disagree.

1182
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:30,520
It fits.
I would have to say the the the

1183
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:37,200
thirst for knowledge, not
necessarily knowledge of, you

1184
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,360
know, things that would drive me
insane.

1185
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,160
Although just saying.
If you're offering.

1186
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,320
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's one of the ones

1187
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,320
that just kind of happens
irregardless of intent.

1188
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:58,480
But like the the drive to learn
things and and figure things

1189
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:07,800
out, I think is is I think the
the thing that most bled from me

1190
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:13,520
into Reg.
Good stuff, Daniel, what about

1191
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:19,440
your characters most like you?
I mean, which one of them?

1192
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:33,560
That one God I like.
I liked Montgomery Donovan.

1193
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,000
Yeah, you won.
I mean, I mean I don't like him.

1194
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,360
Like he sucks and he sacrifices
his wife to a cult.

1195
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:49,280
To be clear, I wouldn't do that,
but I really like the God.

1196
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,640
I don't know if it's like me
actually that I think about it.

1197
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,840
I think, I think if I were
dropped into that situation

1198
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:59,440
after having sacrificed my wife
or whatever, I really think I'd

1199
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,760
be like, no, no, no, I'm, I'm
like a good guy.

1200
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,320
Like let's figure out how we're
going to do this.

1201
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,760
I'm going to figure out how
we're going to get out of this.

1202
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,440
Clearly I've been over my head,
but I'm going to just be

1203
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:10,120
reasonable about this and we can
find a way to get out of this.

1204
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,600
If you were a good guy, you
would have never gotten in this

1205
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,320
situation in the 1st place.
Exactly.

1206
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,080
And I of course, would never
actually get to that situation.

1207
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,880
Besides, he was a rich
motherfucker.

1208
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,440
He's also a yeah.
I mean, if you want to talk

1209
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:29,120
about the character I most like,
it's Aetris from my old my old

1210
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:34,080
show, where my thought is that
we need to we need to destroy

1211
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,960
the 40K universe because it's
bad.

1212
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,200
But that was.
You're you're not wrong.

1213
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:44,520
My my 40K show ended with a guy
who was going to try to use time

1214
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,280
travel to make it so 40K wasn't
bad and my players had to stop

1215
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,040
him to make sure 40K kept
happening.

1216
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,720
I.
Mean although all that would

1217
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,240
have taken was just like go back
in time and take the Emperor out

1218
01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:01,320
before he was the Emperor.
It's complicated.

1219
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,320
Like Damien Damien, the first
episode is out, right?

1220
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,760
So what about smalls?
What about smalls?

1221
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,600
Is, I don't know how much of
smalls you've found yet, you

1222
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,880
know what I mean, But there's
definitely something to them

1223
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,800
probably.
Yeah.

1224
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Mom is ballsy.
Balls is very ballsy.

1225
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:22,280
Smallsy.
Ballsy.

1226
01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:26,240
Oh no, that sounds mean.
Say that, don't say that.

1227
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:40,480
Yeah, I, I would, I, I, I would
definitely say the, the, the

1228
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:45,880
lack of box that he gave.
I love it.

1229
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,360
For the most part.
Is oh, I'm being spied on from

1230
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,840
across the way.
Hi.

1231
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,680
How you doing?
I see you.

1232
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,480
I was iconic.
I loved that.

1233
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,600
Yeah, Oh.
You, you know what?

1234
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,120
I have one more thing to say.
You've not met Jonathan Brooks

1235
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,520
yet.
He is the guy that you're sort

1236
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,440
of going after in Mexico.
I think of the antagonist that I

1237
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:12,720
am controlling.
He has even more similarities to

1238
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,320
me.
Daniel Fernandez.

1239
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,760
Interesting.
Which you will, you will

1240
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,640
discover and we can talk about
that on the next.

1241
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:27,080
Yeah.
I am, yeah, I am terrifying.

1242
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:43,360
I think for for Kay well.
I do like languages and I was

1243
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:51,680
going to give her a mental issue
that I have, but she died so.

1244
01:21:53,800 --> 01:22:01,800
And for Kearns, definitely the
unhealthy coping mechanisms, the

1245
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,720
self medicating.
I'm no stranger to that.

1246
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:13,120
And also I think I'm like when I
was giving him stats, assigning

1247
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:18,120
points, I definitely, I was
definitely compensating for, you

1248
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:23,160
know, I, I, I really wish I
could just punch my way out of

1249
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:31,520
my problems, you know, but, but
I am 5 foot one on a good day

1250
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:39,040
and like 100 lbs so.
I I wouldn't want to, I still

1251
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,920
wouldn't want to get into a
fight with you for multiple

1252
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,280
reasons.
I wouldn't really want to fight

1253
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,760
any of you guys here, my
friends.

1254
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,480
But also I I think you got
straight to the line.

1255
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,640
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the small ones that

1256
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,280
are the crazy ones anyway.
Yeah.

1257
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:59,840
And I definitely overcompensated
for my lack of physical prowess

1258
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,360
there and.
And it's a welcome change to the

1259
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,480
to the crew, to be honest.
Yeah.

1260
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,000
All these fucking nerds.
Somebody needs to, you know,

1261
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,680
sometimes you need to just hit
Cthulhu with a boat.

1262
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,800
Sometimes you.
Need to bat skills.

1263
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,280
I just can't hit anything.
And now and now Reggie's dead.

1264
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,720
So I'm, I'm the only kind of
muscle, I guess.

1265
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,760
I mean, you got some athletics,
right?

1266
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,720
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

1267
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,800
Yeah, I will also say your
combat skills are going to be

1268
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,640
reduced now that you are down an
arm.

1269
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,720
They are scaffolding and
piloting.

1270
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,240
Yeah, there's, there's a couple
of things where it went down.

1271
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,640
You can't fire.
It's not everything, but also.

1272
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,320
Right, can't do rifles.
Yeah, can't do rifles.

1273
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:54,480
Yeah, can't do.
Yeah, two handed swords.

1274
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,800
That's a real loss, yeah.
You can't.

1275
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,840
You can't use a a big ass
claymore.

1276
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,840
Watch.
Watch us finally reach whatever

1277
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,360
we need to do and it has to be
stopped using two hands.

1278
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:10,480
It's.
Like.

1279
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,840
Sablest.
Yeah, guess I'm out.

1280
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:22,040
Sorry, world.
I would, I will say this, I, I

1281
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:26,040
it is a weird thing where I'm
doing Lovecraft stuff where

1282
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,720
things are supposed to be
horrible and whatnot.

1283
01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:32,080
I don't think I would do
something that would be so much

1284
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,320
just like, like it's a little
ableist to be saying that like

1285
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,880
now you need to have two arms if
you're going to save the world.

1286
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,680
Yeah, I mean.
We established that you hate

1287
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,280
women, but that's where you draw
the line.

1288
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,520
Did we establish that?
Have we established?

1289
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:57,240
Who said I hate women?
Yes, I've I've killed a woman on

1290
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:04,480
the show.
You forgot her name, Damien.

1291
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,160
Oh no.
You're referred to my girl,

1292
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:13,040
Tashambe as just a woman.
Just a woman.

1293
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:19,240
Your girl.
She ate a dude's hand.

1294
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,640
God.
Forbid a woman has hobbies.

1295
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,760
He put his hands to where it.
Shouldn't be, I said she.

1296
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,360
Was just a.
Woman.

1297
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,440
I meant that she was a human
being, not like a scar vampire.

1298
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,760
Sure.
She wasn't a Hound of Tenderlos

1299
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:44,440
is what I was trying to say, not
that she was OK.

1300
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,080
A hound?
So you're calling women bitches

1301
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,880
now, huh?
OK, I doubt OK this.

1302
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,840
High 5 I want to high 5 you can
I Nathan.

1303
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,720
This podcast is over you.
I.

1304
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,440
I I love women.
Watch our show.

1305
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:07,800
Bye.
Wait, what?

1306
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,880
I guess listen to it.
You don't really watch it.

1307
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,400
Listen to it bye.
Can we?

1308
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,080
No.
Can we talk about can we can.

1309
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:22,200
We're not going to talk about
how Nathan and I fucked.

1310
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,200
Falk and JB.
Whatever.

1311
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,960
No, wait, that's one person.
Yeah, it is JB and clones.

1312
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,400
Yeah.
You know what?

1313
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,960
Falk and JB probably fucked too.
I mean, we have established that

1314
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:44,120
JB is kind of a freak, yeah.
That is more of a Mexico

1315
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:49,760
discussion that it is a.
No, but I guess.

1316
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,760
I know.
I guess but.

1317
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,360
Like it started out as a joke.
Yeah.

1318
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,240
Yeah.
It did start as a bit and now

1319
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,920
it's Canon and we just all just
have to live with that.

1320
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Yeah, I had to leave.
As in the joke.

1321
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:12,520
But now it's becoming really no,
that's that's actually somebody

1322
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,520
may know the sitcom I'm quoting
there, but never mind.

1323
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,640
That's when.
You know to say Comments below.

1324
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,800
Yeah, leave it.
Leave it below.

1325
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,840
Get us those.
Engagement numbers, people.

1326
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,240
Yes, I would like to.
I will see this.

1327
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,040
I want to see more of that
maybe, and then we should talk

1328
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,040
about that more when we're
wrapped up with Mexico to see if

1329
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,040
we have any more interesting
things to come with that.

1330
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:47,280
More of what?
But the fucking I don't know if

1331
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,280
there will be more.
I let's see.

1332
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,000
Maybe we should have ended the
show.

1333
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:55,040
Thank you so much for joining us
today.

1334
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,160
This has been Daniel's dread
tails.

1335
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,680
I'm Daniel and these are my.
Dreads where to find men.

1336
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,240
Fucking send it to him.
I I don't.

1337
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:11,640
Hate my lover that he is.
I, I am I I I like I'm.

1338
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,200
Kind of a way out of this one.
Just at the other stuff, we're

1339
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,720
done.
We're done.

1340
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,840
Like, like, comment and
subscribe.

1341
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,080
Smash that Subscribe.