Eternal Lies 29: Daniel Does Interviews
Following up on their invitation from De La Vega, our investigators obtain permission to enter the jungle. That is, after they hire some dependable escorts to help them through the alien and inhospitable terrain.
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Eternal Lies uses the Trail of Cthulhu System from Pelgrane Press and Features
Damien as Donovan Smalls, Miskatonic Mentalist
Nathan as JB Faulk, Self-Helpless Author
Russell as Collin Kane, Positively Scrambled Private Eye
René as Franklin Kerns, Pilot with a Past
And Daniel Fernandez as The Keeper
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Last time on Eternal lies.
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What's more, fleeing a scene of
unspeakable chaos and bloodshed,
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our investigators find
themselves in Merida on the
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Yucatan Peninsula, hoping to
work their way up to a weapon
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capable of harming the gods
themselves.
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Kearns starts off by acquiring a
Tommy gun, while the rest do
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some light research on the area.
While some possibility remains
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that this is as much of A wild
goose chase as Brooks Male
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suggested, the investigators
soon find themselves on the
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receiving end of an invitation
to meet a Mr. Francisco de la
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Vega, land magnate and potential
lead.
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The die is cast.
The pact is sealed.
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May God have mercy on our souls.
It's Daniel's Tread tales.
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No.
Can no.
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You're thinking of Cancun.
Cancun is the dance with the
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skirts.
They.
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They skied off off dive off the
CN Tower.
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It's pretty funny anyway that
they run an extension cord from
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it to the ground.
So yeah, should we smash putt to
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the three of us getting back to
the hotel?
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I I was just thinking it's a
natural starting point.
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Yeah, yeah.
Because then it brings us all
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back together.
And we can talk about our, our,
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our fun times.
Yeah.
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And and Kearns is very, very bad
time.
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Well, you also have a sticky
book now too.
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Yeah.
Yeah, that's also a bad time.
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What?
Sticky book.
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Bad time.
But what bad time?
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No it it's all good.
I'm fine.
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Totally fine.
Just like lighting 1 smoke off
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of another.
Oh God, ashtray is full.
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I've had those days.
It's all good.
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It's all good.
Probably nothing.
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Hey Frank, check out my wet
book.
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No, don't look at the wet book.
It's fucked up.
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What?
I'm just showing it, you don't
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have to read it.
OK, where'd you get that?
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A creepy old man traded me a
radio for it.
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You had a radio.
Yeah, I used it to listen to
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Dick Tracy, right?
And also the news on occasion.
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Right, I remember that.
Cool.
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And we've been invited to a
dinner party.
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Have we?
Yeah, yes.
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I don't know if it's a dinner
party so much as it's a dinner.
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Yeah, I mean, anywhere the four
of us go is a party by the sheer
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nature of the fact that there's
four of us.
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Hey GB, can I can I talk to you
for a minute?
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Yeah, sure.
What's up, man?
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In private.
Yeah, Yeah, we can.
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We can take this to a different
room.
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Yeah, Let's talk.
What do you think they're
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talking about in there Smalls?
I guess, I guess we won't know
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that's not where the the bike
has gone, so we just have no
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idea what's going on in there.
Don't you dare rob this a lot.
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Rob us from.
This So we've established that
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this is basically a cheap hotel.
Is there a cheap dive bar in
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this cheap hotel?
Sure why there is whatever there
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needs to be.
Yeah, I think Smalls is going to
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fade into having a drink at the
bar after the revelations and
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what happened to him after
skimming that.
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Book and you know everything
else, but specifically skimming
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the book.
Yeah, that, well, that was kind
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of the tipping point, yeah.
All right, I think you are
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served a drink.
Anything else from that or just
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you're going to be getting no,
you're going to drink because
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you lost your pillar of sanity.
He he, he's just kind of going
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out of scene for for a minute,
OK, it's just out of focus.
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He's done.
Doesn't have anything specific
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going on.
Cool.
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OK, I guess it's just Colin now.
Oh, he's done.
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Well, guess I'm just talking to
myself over here.
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I'm not Russell.
You want to do a scene with me
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specifically?
I just don't have anything to do
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so or anything that I
specifically want to do.
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I think it's both of these
things.
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Colin is talking to you before
realizing you're gone, but also
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Colin's.
It want stability so it goes on
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a little longer than it should.
How are you want stability
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already?
That was so fast.
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We haven't even done anything
dangerous yet.
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Oh my God.
Oh my God.
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Yeah, that's what they would say
if they were here right now,
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but.
We're not.
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But we're not.
So this is Nathan the player
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being confused.
OK.
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I I think the microphone will
now move towards the small room
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where you guys are talking.
Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, are you literally putting
us in the closet?
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Well, I mean, the rooms here are
not very nice.
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They're not much bigger than a
closet, but.
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Yeah.
Kearns has a broom stuck in his
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back the entire time.
So I How are you doing?
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You know, any urges, any weird
dreams, withdrawal symptoms,
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anything.
Not yet.
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None since Mexico City.
Yeah, I'm all right right now.
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You definitely still want to
take some nectar.
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There's no nectar around here,
so you can't.
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But this is not something that
goes away.
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A nectar craving will never go
away.
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Keeping that to myself though,
what about?
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What about?
Is this honesty?
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OK, yeah, you see right the fuck
through me.
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But before you can ask follow up
questions, JB is like how about
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how about you man?
You seem a little distracted.
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I look, I don't I don't know
what happened today.
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I am no shrink.
Could be my guilty conscience,
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could be the lack of sleep,
could be, could be all those
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steroids that I have taken to
get this incredibly buff.
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But I saw something today and
this apparition was K.
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Oh my God.
She, she was, she was there one
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moment and gone the next.
And while she was here, she was,
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she told me his gaze is upon him
now in Malta.
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She told me a little bit about
this gazer thing.
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She explained the story, the
fairy tale, and I think she was
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talking about you.
Now.
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You haven't taken any nectar
since Mexico, no?
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Correct.
None.
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Let's try to keep it that way.
Yeah, yeah.
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Thankfully it doesn't seem like
it's spread to this area yet and
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none of us have any on us
anymore.
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So.
And I'm I'm.
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I'm just sort of stuck with it
because I don't know how to get
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rid of it properly.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
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Just.
Throw it into the jungle, drop
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it out the plane anyway.
No, I'm not going.
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Into your mouth, JB.
Yeah, eat it.
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Don't put it in your mouth.
That's a bad plan for many
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reasons.
Anyway, we were having a moment.
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Yeah, let's.
Yeah, but let's just keep it
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that way.
Yeah.
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Again, I it's not that I don't
trust you, but I've seen what
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that shit does.
Yeah, yeah, I have every
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intention of never touching that
stuff again, if at all.
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Possible.
No.
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Right, you've done.
I suddenly become aware that we
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are in a very small closet.
Again, it is.
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It's not really a closet, but
yeah, yeah, no, we are.
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JB suddenly is like, is this a
should I?
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No, probably not.
This is not a good.
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Moment.
OK, 10 minutes later, yeah. 10
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minutes later, we emerge from
the closet.
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JVI adjusts his shirt a little
and brushes his hair out of his
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eyes.
Anyway, yeah, good talk, Kearns.
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I'm gonna.
Kearns's fly is fully down.
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OK, good talk.
Let's let's convene with
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everyone and maybe go to a
dinner party.
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Cullen meets Smalls in the bar
eventually.
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Like only half that conversation
was to the sound of Colin
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Muffles talking to himself
outside.
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Jesus, first time with one of
these weird books, eh?
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I had heard some stories from an
old acquaintance about things
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like this.
It it was always something
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unreal.
Well, I'm finding more and more
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with this case, the unreal stuff
is the stuff that'll hurt you
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the most.
That is surprisingly profound.
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Yeah.
I get that a lot.
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I meant for Colin.
Francisco de la Vega's Manor is
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on the north side of town.
It is a sizable mansion.
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It's a neoclassical architecture
and as you arrive you are
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greeted by the owner of the
house himself stepping forward.
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Francisco de la Vega is a How
would I describe him?
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Frank Lupitas from Lost.
As I may have mentioned before,
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I've not watched Lost so I don't
know for sure, but he's like
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movie star level handsome.
He's in a nice tailored suit.
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He wears a pink rose on the left
breast of his white silk shirt.
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He's got a very classical old
fashioned sort of haircut and he
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seems very relaxed.
In fact, when you see him, even
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though he's standing outside and
walking to greet you, he has a
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Brandy snifter in his right hand
that he's swirling gently.
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Jesus Christ.
You must be the ones that I've
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heard about.
Come in, come in.
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Well, probably, though I hope
not.
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Oh no, no, no, no, no.
I too too be clear my friend, If
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you don't mind me calling you my
friend.
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I am everyone's friend.
I just understand that you were
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asking about archaeological
matters and I am a bit of an
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expert in these sort of things
and I want to make sure that you
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are safe.
But these are not the
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conversations for outside.
Come in, come inside, come
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inside.
Before we go in, can I use sense
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trouble here?
I was actually going to say
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assess honesty.
Like how are his vibes?
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So sense trouble is a thing that
I call for.
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I will say like something is
sneaking around you sense
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trouble.
So you do not just use the sense
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trouble thing, I'll just let you
know that.
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I yes I am aware of that, but
like I am also very paranoid.
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Yeah, I like, assess honesty.
How are this man's vibes?
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He seems to be extremely
friendly, and he seems to be.
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At least you detect no lies at
the moment.
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He seems to be eager to talk to
somebody who knows about
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archaeology.
Oh boy, here we go.
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I know a bit about archaeology.
Yeah, I oh, OK.
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I I took it as part of my level
up.
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He gives you a he gives you a
grin, sort of lifts up his very
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well polished and slender
mustache.
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Now I know that you are from the
States, but I assume you are not
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opposed to a drink.
Let's see, what do we have any
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gestures for one of his servants
to come up?
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We could get you your orders.
We have several kinds of beers.
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We have tequila, anything,
anything that you would like to
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drink, I suppose.
We also have water.
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I know that you Americans may
not want to be drinking, right?
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It's so legal up there, isn't
it?
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That's what I've heard, just a
water for me.
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Water as well.
OK, that's fine.
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OK.
What about you?
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He gives like a sort of playful
punch on your arm.
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Kerns, you seem like you could
put a few down, no?
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He's put a lot down recently.
He has put more down than you
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can possibly fathom.
I loom nothing for me.
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Thanks.
Doesn't agree with my
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medication.
Of course, as you are walking
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through, you see that there are
what appear to be artifacts
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around.
There's like a rusty helmet, a
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decorative sword, some stone
fragments here and there.
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There seems to be that sort of
thing.
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And as you're walking by them,
he he takes a moment to walk a
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little slowly to see if you will
ask him about them.
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But it's not going to be
offended if you don't ask about
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them, if that makes sense.
With my archaeology knowledge,
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do these look authentic or do
they look like replica?
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They look authentic, especially
a couple of Mayan stone
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fragments.
Those look like all of this
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looks authentic.
That's like definitely styled in
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the helmet and sword look like
they are from Spanish
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conquistadors.
Several of the Mayan stone
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fragments look like they are
from actual Mayan sites
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throughout the Yucatan.
So yeah, I'm going to focus a
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little bit more intently on one
of the stone fragments and kind
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of make it obvious.
Impressive, don't you think?
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It is.
If you don't mind me asking,
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where did you happen upon this?
Well, very interesting.
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You see, most of them are just
laying on the ground these days.
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I have quite a bit of land and I
send my people in there and they
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find these things.
They've fallen off the walls or
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broken off the adornments from
the harsh weather over the
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years, so I bring them in here,
their will, to the Museum of
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Anthropology.
But I keep them for now.
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They're definitely a boon to
anyone's personal collection.
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I see you take quite good care
of.
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Yes.
It's great to see as a as
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somebody who appreciates some of
the ancient artifacts that can
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be found.
From my understanding, these are
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not ancient per SE.
They are, I mean, they are not
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modern.
They are, they are very old, but
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they were around when my
ancestors, well my Spanish
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ancestors, first roamed this
continent.
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This sword right here belonged
to the conquistador Francisco de
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la Bella Cazar, for whom I am
named and related to.
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That is also a very nice piece
and I bet carries a very storied
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history.
Well, my ancestor moved here
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from Cuba and befriended, one
might say conquered, associated
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with the local Mayan people.
Let's just say I am proud to
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have both Spanish and Mayan
blood in my history.
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Oh, this guy sucks.
This guy sucks.
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No, he's, he's glad that he's
proud of his heritage.
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He's got his.
He's got our effects for both of
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his heritage.
He leads you into the large
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dining room where grilled
chicken and vegetable platters
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have been.
Well, not platters, but plates
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have been set up for you
already.
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It looks very well made.
There are waters around
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actually.
Did you all order?
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I think you all ordered JB.
Did you order?
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Who didn't order?
I feel like I got 3 orders.
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Smalls.
Smalls didn't.
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I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't get offered
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anything.
Do you happen to have Brandy?
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It's not my particular favorite,
but we might have something in
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the the cellar.
Lupe, let's see if you could
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find my friend.
I'm sorry I didn't catch your
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name.
We can discuss that in a moment.
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Get my friend the the professor.
Are you a professor?
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You're very knowledgeable.
Can find some Brandy for him if
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you would.
Doctor Smalls.
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Doctor Smalls.
Ah, nice to meet you.
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I I suppose.
I know this is a very awkward
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sort of thing for me to invite
you here without even really
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knowing your names, but as I
mentioned, my name is Francisco
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de la Vega.
I've met Doctor Smalls here.
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That's a doctor in what?
Doctor in psychology, actually.
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Oh, the human mind is a
fascinating thing, my friend.
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And you, Sir?
He's gesturing towards.
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JBJB Falk.
I'm a writer and Ioffer him to a
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handshake.
He gives you an enthusiastic
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handshake.
A writer.
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Anything I would have read.
You don't strike me as the
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murder mystery type,
unfortunately.
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Oh no, not really.
That seems all too dreadful for
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me.
Shame JB does not like this guy.
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JB does not like this guy at
all.
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You'll have to tell me the name.
You'll have to tell me the name
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of your books, though.
I'm always looking to read
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something new.
Is it in I suppose it's in
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English, right.
I I can read that.
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Oh, yes.
So thank you.
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Thank you very much.
Take your seat.
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Take your seat.
And you, Sir, with that, I'm
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sorry to say it the the one arm.
Trips Daily photographer.
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Mr. Daly.
Nice to meet you, Mr. Daly.
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I should have said my name was
my was Greg Bojones.
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I, I, I, I'm sorry to, to bring
up the arm.
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I just, I don't know if it's one
of those things that we should
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like be dancing around.
I figure just be direct and say,
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hey, I've noticed you don't have
an arm.
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That's fine.
Do you need like any sort of
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like special silverware or
anything with that?
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Oh, am I being patronizing?
I hope I'm not.
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Nah, I should probably get a
hook it sometime.
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OK, OK, excellent, excellent.
Got a hook around a.
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Hook.
We could find a hook of some
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sort.
Do you need?
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Does it?
Do you have something that it
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attaches to?
Nah, I can figure it out.
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Okay.
Duct tape is not a thing yet,
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Russell.
I decisively approve of you
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capital F fucking with this guy.
As Lupe comes back with the
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Brandy for Doctor Smalls, he
says Lupe, a bit of an odd
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request.
Could you get a hook for Mr.
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Daly here?
A hook.
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They they chattel it.
Yes, a hook.
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Get him a hook.
The man needs a hook.
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Sorry.
Lupe's.
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Lupe's really the best.
I'm sure she'll find something.
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All right, good luck.
She does not look as confident
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as he does.
I believe in Lupe.
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OK, finally.
And you Sir, what?
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What was your name?
Is it Hercules?
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Close.
It's Steve.
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I'm not sure how that's close.
Is that a?
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Is that a pun I don't get?
It makes more sense in English.
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I speak no, maybe I don't speak
English as well as I think I do.
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Yeah, Steve cut the Crappington.
Why are we here?
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Well, I appreciate your
directness.
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I understand that.
I heard you mention Chichin Juul
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Juul, and I want to tell you two
things about it.
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One, it's just a few crumbled
walls and an old well, I'm
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afraid there's very little
reason for you to be visiting
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there.
But two, it would be very
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dangerous for you to visit
there, I think.
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Do you know that an expedition
recently left to go visit that
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site and never returned?
How recently I.
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Think it was 2 weeks ago they
arrived or well they left
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anyway.
They came to me and asked me for
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permission to travel on my
lands.
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I think I assumed you would do
eventually.
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Well, we just got into that, but
we're actually.
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Associating.
Yes, I understand.
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Yes.
You just came into town.
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Yes.
So I, I wanted to give you some
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advice that that land is not
completely safe.
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It exists outside the bounds of
our civilized society.
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You understand now I do own the
land.
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I do my best to keep it safe.
But once you get further and
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further out, there are bandits
and they've been known to rob
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and I'm sorry to say, kill
particularly white folks such as
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yourself who visit the area.
So that's the main thing I
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wanted to say.
Now I know you may be set on
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visiting this place, in which
case I understand, but I just
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wanted to caution you against
it.
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Well, you see, that previous
expedition is actually the one
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we were supposed to be with.
We're hoping to catch up with
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them, but things took a little
longer than it planned.
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Really.
You were with the other
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expedition.
Yep, I guess they figured they
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could get on without their
photographer, psychologist and
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book writer.
Crazy, I know.
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Yes, well, I'm sorry to say that
they have disappeared into the
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jungle.
I do hope that they come out,
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but I do not believe that they
will.
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Well, as harrowing as you make
it sound, we're sort of
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obligated to catch up with them.
I understand your friends may
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have already been killed by
bandits, but I understand.
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I understand.
When he says I don't believe
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they will, does it says honesty
tell me anything?
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In general, this guy is
withholding some information
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from you.
That's about all you're getting.
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OK, so let me see if I
understand correctly.
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You're just a benevolent well
wisher who invited us to their
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house just to caution US against
going into the jungle.
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Mostly yes.
Well, Sir, this could have been
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a telegram.
Why are we actually here?
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Mr. Kearns, I understand your
skepticism at the moment.
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Mr. de la Vega, we definitely
appreciate the warning that you
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are giving and as they are your
lands, we will be seeking your
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approval to access.
Is there anything more that you
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can tell us about the bandits in
this area?
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As it is your land you you may
not be able to completely stop
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them, but I'm I'm sure you would
be able to assist us as you are
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concerned, at least nominally
with our safety.
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My friend, I am concerned with
everyone's safety, not just
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nominally.
Now I will say this, the
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previous expedition, your
friends with the Dominguez I
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believe was his name.
They also refused my advice,
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although they did take my advice
when I recommended them a guide.
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That guide is no longer around,
but perhaps I could direct you
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to a proper guide to help you
find the right way through the
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jungle.
That is about all I could say,
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because there are things of the
jungle that are dangerous
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besides armed men.
The armed men are perhaps the
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most dangerous, but you know,
there are wild animals,
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sinkholes, quicksand.
Yes, I I do definitely
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understand that now we have
actually been looking into some
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potential guides, however is
there anywhere that you could
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suggest we could go to better
outfit ourselves for the
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journey?
Lupe is taking a while with that
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hook.
Yeah, Lupe has not found the
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fucking hook.
I was all for a fucking with de
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la Vega, but now I feel bad that
we've tasked Lupe with this
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bullshit.
Yeah, she's outside having a
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smoke break.
She knows she's not going to
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find anything.
I'm going to ask you guys this.
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So this conversation is going
on.
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Are you trying to make him
believe like truly, are you
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trying to make him believe that
you are with the other
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expedition?
Or are you just saying that
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knowing he's not going to
believe you?
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Well, I think Colin is trying to
give that impression, but I'm
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not sure about the rest of us.
OK.
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Giving the impression that which
impression that you?
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Actually were with the.
That you were with the other
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group, OK.
Yeah, Smalls is going along with
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that.
OK, I'm going to ask you to
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spend a number of points that
you would like to spend to
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convince De la Vega, because
right now, without spending any
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points, he's going to think you
are lying to him because you are
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lying to him.
And he is a 100 cents on a
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state.
Yeah.
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Oh, that's fair.
So.
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Is there a threshold we need to
meet or are we guessing a
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number?
One point or two points your
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call about how many you would
like to spend.
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I'll give two points of
reassurance.
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I'm willing to spend a point as
well if it can be split up
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between both of us.
That way we only have to spend 1
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each.
All right.
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OK.
So I'm just getting like the
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vibe of the conversation,
whether it's believing you or
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not.
I also would suggest that you
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get one of the local guides to
assist you.
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I know you don't necessarily
know the region that this is in,
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unless did your previous
expedition give you a map of
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sorts?
Not so much start to get the
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feeling we were less valuable
members of staff.
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There was some pranks involved.
You know.
451
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Yeah, that Dominguez.
Quite the joker.
452
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,920
Yes, he did seem to imply that
he his but compatriots within
453
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
his organization were
disorganized.
454
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,640
It's OK, you can say
incompetent, we've heard it
455
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,320
before.
Hell, we've said it before.
456
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,320
Yeah, so I suppose you would
have poor things to say about
457
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,080
this, Mr. Brooks.
You wouldn't we all start
458
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,400
laughing.
Color stops himself and just
459
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,200
nods stoically.
I mean, I'm I don't laugh.
460
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520
I I only laugh when I'm losing
my shit.
461
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
So at.
The very least JB is definitely
462
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,560
laughing.
Francisco sort of joints in the
463
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,160
laughter as everybody is
laughing.
464
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,200
What are we laughing about?
I grin crookedly.
465
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,080
I would recommend that you find
Pablo Garza.
466
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:33,000
He is the best guide now to help
you find what you're looking
467
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,640
for.
The best thing that I would say
468
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,920
for you, though, you know, speak
to those guys that are around,
469
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,080
but do avoid that Rick Luke
fellow.
470
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
He's an American who's come into
town recently.
471
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,880
He has no idea what he's talking
about.
472
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Also, he has two first names.
Doesn't seem right.
473
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Sounds like a villain for some
reason.
474
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,040
I don't know anything about
that.
475
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,600
He's eager, he's a capable
enough fellow, but he doesn't
476
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120
know the jungles very well.
That's honesty.
477
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,320
He does not think Rick Luke is
competent.
478
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,480
Fair enough.
But the description I don't
479
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,120
either.
Yeah.
480
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840
OK.
Just new in town.
481
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,880
You don't want that from a
guide, right?
482
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,040
Yeah.
Exactly.
483
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,640
After that sort of chat, unless
there's anything else that we
484
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280
want to talk about the
expedition, he does sort of turn
485
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,280
the conversation back to just
sort of archaeology, small talk,
486
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,240
things like that.
We were on an archaeological dig
487
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280
in What was it, Ethiopia a while
back.
488
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Found some interesting things.
You know, I don't really know a
489
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,800
lot about archaeology outside of
Mesoamerica, particularly the
490
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Mayans, though I've learned a
thing or two about the Aztecs as
491
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920
well, a little further up in
Mexico.
492
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880
What did you find in Ethiopia?
From what I understand, the
493
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240
Italians have been finding
interesting things there
494
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,120
recently.
Oh geez.
495
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,720
Wow.
Well, ancient cultures.
496
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Fragments of things better off
lost, truly.
497
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,960
There are many such things in
this world.
498
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,440
But do tell me, have you, have
you been to Ethiopia?
499
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Have you had some some
adventures in the desert?
500
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Tell me all about it.
I do so in extremely broad
501
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
strokes.
Do you mention like for instance
502
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
fighting the bandits on the
train?
503
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Yes, big time.
OK.
504
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,440
I think I show him the bullet
hole.
505
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Yeah, when he's that is truly
dreadful.
506
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,160
I'm so glad that you're OK.
Is that is that what happened to
507
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320
your arm?
Oh no, that was a different
508
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,840
thing.
That was.
509
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,400
A.
It was in Ethiopia though.
510
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,600
To be perfectly frank, I don't
know if I need to hear that part
511
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,120
of the story.
Well, suffice it to say, it went
512
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,680
bad.
On yeah, sounds like.
513
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,000
It I mean point of order, I
think it went as good as it
514
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,680
could have.
But the arm went bad in the most
515
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,920
literal way.
Part of me wants to describe the
516
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,880
act of cutting off his arm in
his graphic detail as possible
517
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,280
just to fuck with Vega, but I
don't think I'm going to do that
518
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,920
but know that I'm seriously
considering it.
519
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Okay.
I think maybe I spot your your
520
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,880
trademark I'm about to fuck with
you face and I'm mouth don't.
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543
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Lupe has brought a hook.
It clearly is something maybe
544
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,640
meant more for gardening or
actually no used to like hang up
545
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,200
a plant from like a wall or
something but.
546
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Is it a fucking coat hanger?
It is not a coat hanger.
547
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600
It's like a plant hook.
It's like a like a metal fig
548
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,760
used to hang up a plant on a
that's that's or something.
549
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,600
That's just as funny, though.
Yeah, it's also not what you
550
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,520
want at all.
Well, I don't think you really
551
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640
wanted a hook at all.
Right now I've got nothing, so
552
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,920
it's probably better.
Yes, arguable.
553
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,360
Thank you very much, Lupe.
Isn't she the best great girl?
554
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,760
Oh fantastic.
However much he's paying Lupe,
555
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,880
it's not enough.
Is she keeping a straight face?
556
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Yeah, she's, you know, it's part
of the job, man.
557
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,800
It seems like he has weirdos in
all the time and sometimes asks
558
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,320
for odd things.
Yeah, the reason this took so
559
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,800
long is because they gave out
the good.
560
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,720
I will note while he is drinking
a little bit, he is not like
561
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
getting sloshed or anything.
He's just, you know, he's got
562
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,800
maybe a little bit of a buzz,
but he does, he is not drinking
563
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,840
to excess or anything like that.
I get.
564
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:56,000
You well, I suppose that's that
you do have my permission that
565
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,760
I, I grant it to you, he says.
He sort of raises his arms and
566
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,480
like waves them around in like
some sort of mock ceremony as he
567
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,840
says this.
And it just been a pleasure
568
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000
meeting you, fascinating stories
about Ethiopia.
569
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,920
When you get back from your
trip, which again, I do caution
570
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,440
you, there's really no reason to
do it.
571
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,239
But if you insist on going on
this trip, you'll have to come
572
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,199
back and tell me what you've
seen out there.
573
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,080
Oh, absolutely.
Although I hope you find
574
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,400
something interesting again,
it's not a lot, just some
575
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,400
crumbled walls and cenote.
Well, maybe Timmy's done that
576
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,199
well.
I don't know if that reference
577
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,679
makes sense yet.
I don't get what you're saying
578
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,080
but OK.
American humor.
579
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,199
Don't worry about it.
Well I will say this, I hope no
580
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,639
one comes looking for your
expedition in the future.
581
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,280
As do I.
Goodbye everybody, continues
582
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,760
standing around awkwardly.
So can we leave?
583
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,720
Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, of course this
584
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,800
conversation is happening like
as you're walking.
585
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Out.
Yeah, Time to time to Skidoo.
586
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Does not knock over your
artifacts in the hall on the way
587
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,280
out.
Yeah.
588
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Yeah, I think when I realized
that there's going to be no
589
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,840
goons jumping out at us and
we're we can actually leave, I'm
590
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,600
just going to awkwardly point at
the shelf full of curious and
591
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,640
say cool sword.
Yes, it is rather cool.
592
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:35,600
This guy seems like he is a
generous, maybe a little naive,
593
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,120
plutocrat.
Yeah, I've I'm out of things to
594
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,640
say to this guy.
Let's let's Yeah, I think we
595
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,280
just.
You know, the guy trying to live
596
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,040
his best life regardless of
anybody else.
597
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480
OK, let's go find this Garza
fella.
598
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Yeah, so I'm going to tell you
this.
599
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,000
There are three possible guides
that you could hire to take you
600
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,240
through the jungle.
One is Pablo Garza, another one
601
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:10,800
is Guillermo Castillo and the
third one is Rick Luke.
602
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Yeah, I don't think we should go
to Rick Luke for this.
603
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,280
Well, maybe we should talk to
him.
604
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,800
This is me personally.
I also don't trust someone who
605
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,680
has more than one first name in
their name.
606
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Yes, JB's name is John Beatrice
Falk.
607
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,160
Don't worry about it.
The secret revealed at last.
608
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,320
His last name is Luke.
He just says 2 first names.
609
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,800
Just one of them is his last
name.
610
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Yeah, and, and JB's middle name
is also a first name.
611
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,880
But you know, also, I swear I've
said my full name on this show
612
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,840
at least once.
Not, not that I recall, no.
613
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,240
I sort of just want to check out
Rick Luke, just because this
614
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,560
Francisco guy told us not to.
Yeah, I want to check him out
615
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,360
just to see how bad he is.
Yeah, both valid.
616
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,880
I kind of wanted to check out
Guillermo because he's the one
617
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:10,680
that we know of that de la Vega
did not suggest and like de la
618
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Vega was hiding something.
We just don't know what.
619
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:15,720
Well, I kind of suspect that
this ruin is more than a couple
620
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,920
walls in a cenote.
Well, yeah, there's that.
621
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,880
I would hope it is or this whole
thing is going to be out of a
622
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
waste of time.
Yeah, who do we want to talk to?
623
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,320
Yeah, I think it's time for some
job interviews.
624
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,800
I think the majority wants to
talk to Nick Luke.
625
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
OK, Rick.
Luke, Huh?
626
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,800
OK.
Why do you say it like this?
627
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080
I just said it like that because
I'm pulling up my notes.
628
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,840
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
629
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,240
And I'm trying to just say his
name normally instead of saying
630
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,280
uh, so that's what I'm doing
that.
631
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Yeah, good luck.
Oh I know it's bad, but Rick
632
00:37:54,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Luke is an American explorer.
God, I just did it immediately.
633
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,600
Rick, Luke is an American
explorer.
634
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,840
Do you go to him?
Do you give him a call and
635
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,800
invite him to a place of your
choosing?
636
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Are you gonna, like, set up an
interview table in your hotel
637
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,080
room?
What's the plan?
638
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,920
In our hotel room?
Absolutely not.
639
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,200
We definitely set up the
interview table though.
640
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,840
Yes, like a a cafe.
Not a great cafe, but better
641
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,400
than our awful hotel.
Yeah, we we don't want them to
642
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,360
know where we sleep.
There's that as well.
643
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:50,760
Rick Luke is a American.
He appears to be around 30 years
644
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,720
old.
He's wearing tight pants with a
645
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,800
loose cream colored shirt.
He's got a well maintained
646
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,560
goatee and he's wearing a pistol
in a holster that he has over
647
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,680
his shoulder.
He is very excited to meet you.
648
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960
He offers a handshake to all of
you.
649
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,400
All right.
Kerns, follow me, OK?
650
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,360
We both reached to shake his
hand at the same time.
651
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,520
He reaches and shakes both
hands.
652
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640
He sort of crosses his hands to
do it too.
653
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,800
Shit I wasn't expecting.
Honestly, I respect the hostage.
654
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Freaking out Kerns, what do I
do?
655
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,360
Yeah, I respect it.
Yeah, he's quick.
656
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,400
Hey.
Open carry though.
657
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,560
My name's Rick.
Rick Luke, and I heard you were
658
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,480
getting ready to go into the
jungle.
659
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,520
Is that right?
Where'd you hear that from?
660
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,280
Well, that's why you called me
here, so I suppose I've kind of
661
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,000
wasted your time by saying you
want to go into the jungle, but
662
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,520
yes.
I like this guy.
663
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:56,680
I am.
I am your man, he says with a
664
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,280
shiny smile.
Wow.
665
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Now this smile is so shiny.
Yeah, look at those teeth.
666
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,560
Now here's the thing.
There may be other guides around
667
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,800
here, but I'm more than a guide.
I am a fellow archaeologist.
668
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:20,440
I am a comrade in science and
expeditioning.
669
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,520
These are the folks you're going
to find.
670
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,400
OK, what do you know about the
jungle?
671
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,400
I'm sorry.
What do you know about the
672
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,560
jungle?
What do I know about the jungle?
673
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,160
I know plenty about the jungle.
I've been through every goddamn
674
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,040
jungle on the planet, while I
may not have been.
675
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,480
All right, name 2.
I've been through the Amazon and
676
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,160
I've been through most of the
Yucatan jungle here.
677
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,360
I went actually less northward
to where you would be heading.
678
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440
I headed more east.
I have seen all sorts of things
679
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,320
in the ruins here and I'm
looking to check a few more off
680
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,800
the books.
You know what I mean.
681
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,640
There is no real detailed
information about Chichen Ijul.
682
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,240
There's only one book written by
a Doctor Cartwright in 1846.
683
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Now I'm looking for a new
challenge and I'm going to write
684
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,000
the definitive book on the
subject.
685
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,880
Seems like it'll be good fun.
Now, this book that you found
686
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,920
by.
Yeah, Mr. Cartwright, did you
687
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,040
find that in the local library?
Because we have a suspicion that
688
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160
the selection here isn't all
that great.
689
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400
Yeah, I did notice that there's
very little information.
690
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Yeah.
What can you expect?
691
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,400
This guy did is doing the same
thing as us.
692
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,440
He didn't research this place
before he came here.
693
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,720
No, that's why I came here.
I researched this place
694
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,120
beforehand.
Oh, OK.
695
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,040
I know a lot about the the, I
can tell you quite a bit about
696
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,120
it.
I've done a lot of research
697
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,840
beforehand.
The sort of thing you should
698
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480
have done.
I didn't actually say that, but
699
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,920
I I.
Sounded like it through.
700
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,520
A God named Daniel was saying
that through.
701
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,720
Dan's saying that.
Dan's saying that one to us.
702
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Dan's so good at playing an
American.
703
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,920
There's not just the book
written by Doctor Cartwright
704
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:13,240
now, there is also an account
from a conquistador named
705
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,520
Francisco de Balacazar, who
vanished with a dozen soldiers
706
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,360
and explorers in the area in
1518.
707
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,600
Must have turned back up at some
point though, I'm thinking.
708
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Right, Right.
Isn't that descendants work?
709
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,400
I mean, maybe he.
Yeah, that's what that's what I
710
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600
was gonna say, yeah.
Maybe.
711
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,840
Yeah, there's a cryptic message
that one of the guides says in
712
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,840
the diary that was found, it
says I am no jewel.
713
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,400
I will not go to their place.
Promising gentlemen, do you have
714
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,320
any questions for Mr. Luke here?
I'm is he on cocaine or
715
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,840
something?
No, he's not on any sort of
716
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,600
substances.
You may or may not have noticed
717
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,200
that I've been a bit twitchy
lately.
718
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,200
I'm sorry, is, is this a
confession that that Kearns is
719
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,160
on cocaine or that Renee is on
cocaine?
720
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,880
No, Kearns has just not taken
any morphine since.
721
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,200
He's OK.
Oh yeah, that'd do it.
722
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,080
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
723
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,200
Yep.
That was earlier today though
724
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,120
those.
Withdrawal symptoms, That's not
725
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,840
the full.
Extent of the question problem.
726
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Wow, that's not great, man.
Oh.
727
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:40,200
So what sort of vibe is Nick
Luke giving off here?
728
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Or sorry Rick Luke, what sort of
vibe is he giving off?
729
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,080
Like does assess honesty give me
anything on him?
730
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Look, he's exaggerating
occasionally, but he seems like
731
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,880
an honest guy.
He the exaggerations he's giving
732
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,200
you are not the kind of
exaggerations you would get if
733
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,960
you were like a true liar.
It is a guy exaggerating a
734
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,800
little bit to get hired.
Yeah, that's.
735
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Does he seem like he's full of
shit?
736
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,320
No, he does not seem like he's
full of shit.
737
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,800
All right, all right.
So yeah, Smalls is just kind of
738
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,720
nodding along as he's talking.
I don't know if I want to hire
739
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,240
him necessarily, but I sort of
want to let him tug along.
740
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,520
I definitely think we should put
a pin in him.
741
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,800
I kind of want to interview all
of our options.
742
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,400
OK, yeah, I should have seen
that one coming.
743
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Well, of course, Mr. Luke, would
you be interested in joining us
744
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,880
more on a scientific capacity
rather than solely as a guide?
745
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,720
I assumed that would be the
case.
746
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,880
I'm not going to lie, I would be
guiding you there, but I intend
747
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,640
to take some pictures and write
a book about it.
748
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,400
Well, what I'm saying is that
you'd be more focusing on
749
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
scientific support rather than
guiding us, and we'd leave that
750
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
to somebody else.
Well, I'll have you know that
751
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,080
I'm trained in archaeology, the
local languages.
752
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,960
I've traveled through many a
jungle, Mexico.
753
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,360
She's my one true love, and I
think I'm the best man for the
754
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,400
job.
But maybe, maybe we could work
755
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,880
something like that.
I don't know if I could really.
756
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,000
I need a job.
Yeah.
757
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,880
I think what my companion is
saying here is we're willing to
758
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,800
have you come along and work
with, but what we may need is
759
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,200
somebody who is more acquainted
with the specific geography of
760
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680
the era.
I would say you could make a one
761
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,280
point bargain spend to convince
him of this.
762
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,720
Done.
Well, I suppose I could make
763
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:47,000
quite a bit of money with the
information that I find.
764
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Oh, you'll be paid, of course,
but we're not going to have you
765
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,840
tag along unpaid.
Oh, well, yes, definitely,
766
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,560
definitely.
Then.
767
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Yes.
He was thinking that he was
768
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,640
going to come along without
getting paid, and in fact, he
769
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,600
was cozying up to that idea.
But Oh no, definitely.
770
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,160
I do appreciate the idea of
being paid.
771
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Yes, definitely.
I'm not worried about money.
772
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,360
Can't take it with me when I
die.
773
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Chicks watch.
After that, I'm picturing Smalls
774
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,960
is sitting next to JB like on
the other side from Kearns.
775
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Colin and I are kind of
bookending.
776
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Smalls is just going to kind of
turn to JB and be like almost
777
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,840
had him for free quietly so only
JB can hear he.
778
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,720
He was going to be willing to
pay for the privilege.
779
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,520
Yeah, I.
OK, well I will have you know
780
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,960
that I could be your guide, but
if I'm just hanging out with you
781
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,760
all and finding out the truth
about these crazy ruins, I don't
782
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120
have a problem with that one
iota.
783
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,360
All right.
How's he looking, this Rick Luke
784
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,440
guy like?
He looks exactly like Scoops we
785
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,320
got the same actor.
What do you mean?
786
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,800
How's he looking?
Like should he turn on us?
787
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,280
How easy it is to.
Good trains take him in a fight,
788
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960
yeah.
He's sizing him up.
789
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:12,320
Sizing him up.
Ocular pat down.
790
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,120
God damn it, how would you size
him up?
791
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,440
I'm trying to figure out like
because I have AI have a stat
792
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
line for him.
I'm just trying to figure out
793
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880
what I want to do to make you
figure that out.
794
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,920
You know what?
Ask me what are his stats?
795
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,000
Accounting.
Unhelpful.
796
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,160
Do not tell us his accounting.
I think the most narrative one
797
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,480
would almost be athletics
because that would be the one
798
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,360
that like.
Yeah.
799
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,480
That's like if you're sizing
someone up, that would be the
800
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,280
most apparent I think. 10
Athletics.
801
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,480
I have 10 athletics.
Yeah.
802
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,200
So he looks pretty strong.
Yeah, I'll give you one more
803
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,960
skill question.
Firearms. 5.
804
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,720
OK.
I was going to ask ask Health,
805
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,480
but.
If we're worried about him
806
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,720
turning on us, the combat skills
make more sense.
807
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Yeah, that's fine.
This guy, this guy doesn't seem
808
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,520
like he's gonna turn on Dude.
This guy seems nice.
809
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,480
I don't.
Know he's American.
810
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,600
You know when you when.
You're lying.
811
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,520
You always get pitchy.
No, no, I just get pitchy
812
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,280
whenever I'm saying something
that is.
813
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,840
Obviously if it was a lie, it
would be funny if it was a.
814
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,200
Lie.
Yeah, to be fair, we do usually
815
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,160
have one person per arc that
actually helps us.
816
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Could be this guy.
Yeah, maybe you're going to have
817
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,600
multiple people help you.
You have multiple people help
818
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,840
you in Mexico City.
Maybe the people in Mexico are
819
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,160
just kind of a nicer group.
Yeah.
820
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,000
That this reminds me, Mr. Luke,
are you part of any ancient
821
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,480
organizations?
We've run into it a lot in our
822
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,920
efforts.
Ancient organizations mean like
823
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,560
like a Freemason.
Yeah, Freemasons, Templar, just
824
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,160
sort of nomadic tribe.
Illuminati.
825
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,400
Can't say anything like that,
no.
826
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,640
Well, of course you couldn't
wake.
827
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:08,840
OK oh this this this arc is
hilarious so far.
828
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,280
Well, I will tell you you've
talked to the silliest candidate
829
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,920
first, yeah.
This is true.
830
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,200
OK, let's talk to the.
Other guy, thank you for your
831
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,160
time.
There's two other guys.
832
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
We'll be in touch.
All right, bring in the next
833
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:27,200
candidates.
They're all sitting outside, you
834
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,120
know they're in suits with their
resumes perfect.
835
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Twiddling their thumbs, nervous.
How about the one whom de la
836
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,200
Vega recommended?
OK, Pablo Garza only speaks
837
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Spanish and Mayan, so some of
you were gonna have.
838
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,600
All right.
I am out of this conversation.
839
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,840
Good night everybody.
As am I.
840
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Hello.
Yeah.
841
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,760
Mr. Garza, you come highly
recommended.
842
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,000
Can you tell us about yourself?
He smiles and shrugs a little
843
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,800
bit all.
Right.
844
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,360
I'm going to mark that down as a
no.
845
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:08,040
No, I I have been doing this for
a very long time.
846
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,760
For the record, I didn't really
describe him.
847
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,240
He's a man in his mid maybe late
30s so it's a little hard to
848
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,880
tell unless you just want to
straight up ask him his age.
849
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:26,200
He has sharp cheekbones, he's
wearing comfortable clothes, he
850
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,240
has short black cropped hair,
and as you notice, he's a
851
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,240
missing a little bit of his left
little finger.
852
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Competition.
He is fingering a golden
853
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,440
crucifix that he wears while
talking to you.
854
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,800
So how long is long time?
Since I was a kid, I more or
855
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,760
less grew up in these jungles.
It was a way to make money.
856
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,920
I was a Porter when I was
growing up and now I hire the
857
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,880
porters and lead people in
there.
858
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680
We've heard talk of bandits in
the area, do you know anything
859
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,800
about them?
There are bandits in the area,
860
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,640
yes.
Now if you are careful they can
861
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:09,080
be avoided and if you move with
enough confidence and enough
862
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,160
weaponry they could be
intimidated to back off.
863
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,720
Most of the time.
I will say I have been robbed
864
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,560
once or twice by bandits.
That is a risk of the job.
865
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,520
But if you give them what they
want, they usually won't kill
866
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560
you.
At least they haven't killed me
867
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,160
usually.
Well, I hesitate to say this,
868
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:36,400
but people that look like you
are not the favorite of some of
869
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,080
the bandits.
Not a fan of amputees.
870
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,400
Oh no, wait, white folk, I get
it.
871
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,240
Sorry.
Yes.
872
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Is that what happened to the
other expedition?
873
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,400
That may be the case.
S S Honesty.
874
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,320
He seems to be telling the
truth.
875
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,960
He doesn't seem to know about
that.
876
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,520
He seems nervous.
Not nervous, like there's some
877
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,600
sort of like great secret or
whatever, but he says the jungle
878
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:07,480
can be dangerous.
They say that Chichen Jjul is
879
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,080
haunted, if you believe that
sort of thing by ghosts.
880
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,760
There's plenty of things in the
jungle that I can't explain.
881
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:17,360
No, no.
But see ghosts, They're
882
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,480
incorporeal.
They're not something to be too
883
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,280
worried about.
If it's haunted by something
884
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,760
living, that's when it gets
scary.
885
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,480
Well, like I said, I know the
jungle very well.
886
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,200
I still can't explain everything
that I've seen there, but I
887
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,720
could get you to where you need
to be.
888
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,720
I like this guy.
I don't say it.
889
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,240
I like this guy.
What's got you so nervous?
890
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:45,760
Is it just going into the jungle
or something darker?
891
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,120
The last expedition that went
did not come back.
892
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Oh yeah, I guess that makes
sense.
893
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,440
Neither did their guide.
Yes, looking at this, he's maybe
894
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,120
trying to decide whether if he
even wants to come along with
895
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,760
you.
I have lots of experience in the
896
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,200
jungle.
I know some of the best men for
897
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,880
the job.
I can hire porters for a
898
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,200
competitive rate, and this is a
short expedition.
899
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,520
And I assume you won't be
spending too much time in this
900
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,320
city now.
I'm sorry, are you trying to
901
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,640
find Chichen Azul or are you
trying to find Dominguez's
902
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,480
people?
Well, with any luck, they'll be
903
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,880
the same spot, right?
Well, yes, but what is your
904
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,840
ultimate goal?
I suppose to find Chichen Azul.
905
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Well I will hire probably 4
porters travelling with us would
906
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,760
be the right amount.
That should be able to be enough
907
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,560
for about a week's worth of
supplies.
908
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,840
And do you know anything about
the previous expedition, what
909
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,760
they thought was sufficient?
I don't.
910
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,400
I wasn't part of their logistics
team.
911
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Sure, but word gets around
right?
912
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,280
I don't know how many they
brought.
913
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,640
I there were many more of them,
so they would have they brought
914
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,280
many more porters.
All right, fair enough.
915
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,760
So conceivable somebody could
still be out there.
916
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,120
I hope so.
If they're being held for
917
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,360
ransom, they may all still be
alive now.
918
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,680
No ransom note has been
delivered, but perhaps you will
919
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,600
be the ones to pay the rents.
Yeah.
920
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,400
Sure.
OK, what about the last guy?
921
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,320
Well, we could talk to Smalls
and the other guy.
922
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,280
What?
The fuck?
923
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,440
This has happened before.
Sometimes rain goes slow.
924
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,760
As far as Smalls is concerned,
he would just kind of can think
925
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:52,480
about it for a minute and say we
should probably plan for 10 days
926
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,520
rather than just a week just to
be on the safe.
927
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,800
Certainly.
JB Any.
928
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,040
Thoughts.
No, I think that's fair.
929
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,520
I think that's completely fair,
yeah.
930
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Better to be over prepared than
under.
931
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,400
Prepared.
Yeah, exactly.
932
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,560
Yeah, we're gonna need a fuck
ton of bug spread.
933
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,320
Bringing too many supplies into
the jungle can weigh you down,
934
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,600
but.
Oh, are we doing encumbrance
935
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,120
rules?
Not explicitly, but you know,
936
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,160
for your like, narrative stuff,
it's just a little awkward to
937
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,200
move through the jungle.
Or slower and easier for bandits
938
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,640
to catch us.
That too.
939
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,800
I mean, I'm probably the most
scariest human thing that can be
940
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,960
encountered in the jungle.
Well, unless you had an extra
941
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,400
mouth.
I said human.
942
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:40,240
Colin looks offended.
OK, what about that other guy?
943
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,960
All right.
Guillermo Castillo comes into
944
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,080
the interview room that I guess
you guys have set up.
945
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,000
We we set this up in a cafe.
We are definitely tipping our
946
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,400
weight person for this shit.
Yeah, everybody gets a free
947
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,840
lunch as well.
He's a man in his 40s, early 40s
948
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,000
probably.
He's wearing a khaki vest with
949
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,560
an accumulation of stains on it.
He's got a angle of brown black
950
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,480
hair, a large nose, and a deep
scar on his right arm.
951
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,560
He frowns constantly and will
often arch one eyebrow as he
952
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,240
speaks to you.
Does.
953
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,720
He's speaking.
Hello.
954
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:26,160
He does speak English, yes.
My name is Guillermo Castillo.
955
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,320
If you're looking for a guide,
I'm the best one.
956
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:36,360
That's not what we've heard.
That's terrible way to.
957
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,560
Interview to start.
Terrible way to start and
958
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,040
interview Jesus Christ, Oh my
God.
959
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,200
Well, I saw that you were
talking to that Rick Luke
960
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,840
fellow, but that guy is some
offense.
961
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,280
An idiot.
We are not looking at him as a
962
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,080
guide at this point.
We have made other arrangements.
963
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,160
With yeah, more like a pet
monkey.
964
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:07,160
And Pablo, he's a well meeting
guy, but ultimately he's a
965
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,680
coward and he doesn't have my
years of experience.
966
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,720
He does seem a little flighty.
Does this guy seem fighty or
967
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,200
flighty?
I know exactly where you need to
968
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,640
go.
I can get you there safely and
969
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,920
quickly, and that's that.
He seems confident.
970
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,200
Well, Pablo said confidence was
good in the face of the bandits,
971
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,480
so.
Have you ever been robbed by
972
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,120
bandits?
The juggle is a dangerous place.
973
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,120
You see this scar?
He says, pointed to his scar.
974
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,520
I got that in a fight with some
of the bandits, but I kept all
975
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:45,040
my things and they're all dead.
You should see the other guy s s
976
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,160
honesty.
You can tell that he's lying a
977
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,960
little bit, but it definitely
feels along the lines of talking
978
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,400
a big game.
He seems very confident.
979
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,040
So what does this guy look like
other than like in his forties?
980
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,680
40s scar.
Big nose, dirty clothes.
981
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,560
Big nose, dirty clothes.
No, I think his clothes are
982
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720
mostly dirty.
He just hasn't, you know,
983
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,040
there's some stains that aren't
going to come out of his cool
984
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,800
khaki vest.
In fact, he'll tell you some
985
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,440
stories about them if you want
to ask.
986
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,880
Oh OK, so like blood well worn
clothes.
987
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,040
Yes, yes, OK.
He seems in pretty good shape.
988
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,680
He's very well tanned.
He definitely, even if he is
989
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,880
older, he definitely looks like
a guy who could survive in the
990
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,680
jungle.
OK, yeah.
991
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,920
So that yeah, that was kind of
more what I was considering as a
992
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,400
player.
I kind of like this guy more
993
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,000
than Pablo.
Yeah, same.
994
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,920
All right, everybody huddle up.
Huddle up here.
995
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Think the tradition here
whenever Daniel does an
996
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,760
interview episode is we make it
in a complete waste of time and
997
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,880
hire everybody.
Is everybody with me here?
998
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,160
Do we have the funds for that?
Who?
999
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Yeah, I think so.
If we pool our resources, I'm
1000
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,920
sure we do.
I still have 4 credit rating.
1001
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,360
I'm up to three.
What are your funds looking
1002
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,280
like, JB?
One for something and Oh yeah,
1003
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,200
about a Tommy gun.
You did do that.
1004
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,040
You did do that.
I've got 3 so.
1005
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Yeah.
So we probably have enough
1006
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,640
obviously in.
Are they all gonna fight each
1007
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,880
other?
Now that would be funny.
1008
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,320
Check them in the sinkhole.
Make them all fight each other.
1009
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,320
Cullen walks in, breaks a pool
cue.
1010
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,360
We're gonna have everybody come.
I need to manage my expeditions
1011
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,200
myself, says Guillermo.
Oh shit, we're into uncharted
1012
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:44,800
territory.
If you truly do want to bring
1013
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,760
along this Rick Luke with you,
as long as he doesn't tell my
1014
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:55,440
boys what to do or try to manage
the supplies, I don't mind.
1015
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,040
But I know what I'm doing.
I'm the the best expert there is
1016
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,720
around here.
And I'm the guy you want.
1017
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,960
The jungle is a very dangerous
place.
1018
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,760
I've seen broken bones you could
eat, poisoned berries that make
1019
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,040
your that'll kill you in an
hour.
1020
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,400
Why would we want to do that?
There's venomous snakes that'll
1021
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,280
kill you before you take 3
steps.
1022
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,520
I know how to keep you away from
them.
1023
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,120
I am the guy you want, and I'm
very handsome, he says with a.
1024
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,600
Grin 6 out of 10.
Well, a slight grin.
1025
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,840
Wait, assess honesty.
Is he very handsome?
1026
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,960
He's all right.
Yeah, I I stand by it.
1027
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,840
I do say 6 out of 10.
Wait, how handsome am I?
1028
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Solid 9 I've.
Never.
1029
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,800
I've never thought about another
man that way.
1030
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:52,200
Assess honesty.
Suddenly you were struck by a
1031
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,920
vision.
It is of a door to a closet.
1032
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,080
Kern's blush is because JB said
he was a nine.
1033
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,200
Smalls is like, yeah, I'm for
hiring this guy.
1034
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Garza was recommended by your
friendly local land Baron, but.
1035
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,320
But he really does seem flighty.
Yeah, you're, you're seeming
1036
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,680
like this Castillo guy seems
like the professional, the guy
1037
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,880
you want.
Part of it is paranoia as the
1038
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:28,040
player, part of it is Smalls is
like, yeah no, there's a reason
1039
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,600
why he didn't suggest him and he
was hiding something.
1040
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,200
And it could just be more fun to
go with the second choice, yeah.
1041
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,480
Second answered.
You could just bring Rick Luke.
1042
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,000
He could just run the
expedition.
1043
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,240
No, I don't trust like that.
Fuck that.
1044
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,320
No, I want fun.
Not everybody dies.
1045
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,280
No, Rick Luke is a pet monkey.
Maybe Rick Luke will be 1 of you
1046
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,280
when one of you guys dies.
OK, now that would be fun.
1047
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,040
I have not thought that.
Would be really funny.
1048
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,960
To be fair, maybe Guillermo
Castillo could be one of you
1049
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,320
guys.
Would one of you guys dies
1050
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,480
although he has less reason to
travel around?
1051
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,120
If JV bites, it divbs on Rick
Luke.
1052
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,920
Fair.
Have colonized like hey, do I
1053
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,160
get the feeling you guys respect
me a little more all of a
1054
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,680
sudden?
All right, so with that, I think
1055
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,560
it's time for you to start
getting outfitted to head into
1056
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,360
the jungle.
All right, full camo, Fortunate
1057
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,840
son starts playing.
I don't think camo is a thing
1058
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,880
yet, is it?
Oh yeah.
1059
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,960
Well.
Camo would be a thing.
1060
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,960
Well, camo's absolutely.
Fortunate son.
1061
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,800
However, I know Smalls is going
to look for a firearm of some
1062
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,920
sort.
You could get a, you get a basic
1063
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,640
firearm, like, just like a
rifle, yeah.
1064
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:45,720
Machete.
It's.
1065
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:50,440
Recommended that you all have at
least one firearm with you to to
1066
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,080
keep the bandits at Bay.
This is what Castillo
1067
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,040
recommends.
I guess I'll get a gun.
1068
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,920
I've still got my light revolver
from the fallen police.
1069
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,120
Gotcha.
Yeah, the policeman's gun.
1070
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,600
It's fine.
Yeah, I didn't steal it from
1071
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,520
him.
Yeah, you looted the courts,
1072
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,040
It's different.
Yeah, and that area is a
1073
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880
sinkhole now, so it's not like 1
missing guns going to freak
1074
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,280
people out.
I'm good for weapons.
1075
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,800
I'm I'm going to need a walking
stick and like a backpack that I
1076
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,120
can throw off my back in like
one second immediately as I need
1077
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,120
it.
You're probably going to get me
1078
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,880
to get new clothes while you're
here.
1079
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,720
You're going to want clothing
that breathes and won't staff
1080
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,520
you in the heat, and you're also
going to want things that are
1081
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,080
sort of sturdy enough that they
won't be shredded to pieces by
1082
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,520
like, brambles and branches as
you travel.
1083
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,160
You're going to be tough boots
and sturdy packs.
1084
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,080
I mean my clothes are have
bullet holes and a whole lot of
1085
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,200
blood on them.
Yeah, well that's weird.
1086
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:58,080
Mine are self healing.
Like a cutting mat?
1087
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,160
Yeah.
You're going to get sort of
1088
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,520
generic adventuring clothes, as
it were, for the jungle, unless
1089
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,200
there's anything in particular
if you want to add some style
1090
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,600
like, oh, I'm going to wear a
hat or a scarf or something like
1091
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,880
that, but.
Colin would actually like to get
1092
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,080
himself set up with a basic
prosthetic.
1093
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Oh, OK.
There you go, I've.
1094
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,440
Meant meant to bring this up
before but forgot slash didn't
1095
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,160
have an opportunity.
Yeah, I think you can.
1096
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,520
It's not even one or the other,
it's like both at the same time.
1097
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,680
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
You're not be able to do a ton
1098
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,760
with it, but you know.
I'm OK with that.
1099
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,400
OK, that's fine.
The the hiring of the porters is
1100
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:43,480
handled by your guide.
He gets 5 porters to come with
1101
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,320
you.
They're going to be carrying all
1102
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,040
the food and water and the tents
and stuff like that.
1103
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,120
You guys are going to be
carrying some of the two, but
1104
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,000
the reason that you hire porters
is because you need to carry
1105
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,200
like a lot of crap when you're
going into the jungle.
1106
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,280
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
1107
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,760
And with that, you step into the
dark and mysterious jungles of
1108
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:14,560
the Yucatan Peninsula.
Thanks for listening.
1109
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,320
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1110
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,480
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1111
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,880
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1112
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,120
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1113
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,920
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1114
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,960
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1115
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,040
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1116
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,760
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1117
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,000
Again, thanks for listening and
until next time.
1118
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,760
Try not to fall off any cliffs.
Man.
1119
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,480
I promise nothing.
OK, fair enough.